China is conquering the world.

China has made a <Multi-cultural Unificiation Theory> and has used it to distort history. China is trying to take the history of other countries and make it their own using this theory. That is why they call it the multi-cultural unification theory. They are trying to unify all the other culture's history into their own. However China's argument falls short. South Korea's Ko-ku-ryuh kingdom lasted 700 years, whereas 70% of China's many kingdoms lasted less than 50 years. The only two dyansties that survived longer than 200 years is the Han Dynasty and the Tang Dynasty. If Ko-ku-ryuh was part of China's history, how can a secondary dynasty last three times longer than China's main dynasties? That doesn't make any sense, and the China's lies are so ill conceived. There must be an international prohibition against China's distorted history lessons.

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You mean like how South Koreans teach their kids it was a Korean not Jesse Owens who faced off against Hitler's master race?

Time is ticking away for you.

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China has made a <Multi-cultural Unificiation Theory> and has used it to distort history. China is trying to take the history of other countries and make it their own using this theory. That is why they call it the multi-cultural unification theory. They are trying to unify all the other culture's history into their own. However China's argument falls short. South Korea's Ko-ku-ryuh kingdom lasted 700 years, whereas 70% of China's many kingdoms lasted less than 50 years. The only two dyansties that survived longer than 200 years is the Han Dynasty and the Tang Dynasty. If Ko-ku-ryuh was part of China's history, how can a secondary dynasty last three times longer than China's main dynasties? That doesn't make any sense, and the China's lies are so ill conceived. There must be an international prohibition against China's distorted history lessons.

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Not sure what you are trying to proof here... first off,

China's Xia Dynasty - 594 years
China's Shang Dynasty - 629 years
China's Zhou Dynasty - 788 years
China's Han Dyansty - 471 years
China's Tang Dynasty - 289 years
China's Song Dynasty - 319 years
China's Ming Dynasty - 276 years
China's Qing Dynasty - 267 years

So, as you can see, more than 2 Chinese dynasty lasted more than 200years and not much of them last less than 50years, and so, you should check what they are teaching you in whatever country you are from.

Second, what had a dynasty that had rule over a place for centuries got to do with anything when a stronger force simply came in and destroy that dynasty? Look to the changing of China's dynasty for example, Zhou Dynasty was by far the longest ruling in China (788 years) was destroyed by Qin.

So, what is so difficult to understand, that the stronger one took over the weaker state. Plus this type of discussion would mainly turned into a country vs country crap which we do not welcome.

(Added: Oh... just read the link that TS provided... that link is worst off than linking anything to wikipedia... it was just a forum with 1 posting in that particular thread and the posting is actually full of craps with no reference and whatsoever. Not sure what TS is trying to do here... but I smell a discord he/she was trying to start.)

wanted to use that yield sign for a long time. gotta thank the flower for giving me this opportunity. you will be remembered!! in a relocation to another fall of fame of course lol

What the heck is the Ko-ku-ryuh kingdom?

Goguryo was destroyed by the Tang dynasty, and its peoples scattered. Some migrated to the Korean peninsula to join the Korean kingdoms. Others integrated into Tang society. It is absolutely false for Korea to claim Goguryo as a Korean dynasty. Goguryeo actually originated within the modern borders of China, and only later conquered large portions of the Korean peninsula.

The Korean claim that the Goguryo heritage belongs only to them makes about as much sense as Austria claiming that the history of the Holy Roman Empire belongs only to Austrians.

it's okay. Korean needs something to be believe in their greatness. It typical of minor countries, just see polish or mexicans teach in their histoy class.

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70% of China's many kingdoms lasted less than 50 years. The only two dyansties that survived longer than 200 years is the Han Dynasty and the Tang Dynasty.
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are you serious????? Where did you get the info that 70% of Chinese dynasties lasted less than 50 years???

The shortest Chinese dynasty is the Qin dynasty and it lasted 15 years. Other than that, majority of the dynasties lasted longer than 100 years (73%) while ~50% lasted longer than 200 years. The earlier dynasties (Xia, Shang and Zhou) lasted longer than 500 years.





Even in the wikipedia page I provide above, there is some misleading info. Many Chinese dynasties were disrupted in the middle and then re-established by members of the royal family, hence the name "west/east" or "south/north" in front of the dynasty names. General, when this happens, both parts would still be considered one dynasty since the emperors in both half of the dynasty were from the same family. This is because the word "dynasty" literally means a succession of rulers from the same family. Yet, on this page, they separated them into different dynasties. So according to the correct classification, Han dynasty should be 410 years instead of 200 something (including both West Han and East Han) and Song dynasty should be ~320.

BTW, both Ming and Qing dynasties lasted longer than 200 years. Ming was 276 while Qing was 268.

so the length of major Chinese dynasties (~13 of them) should ALL be at least 250 years and up to ~900 years, except Qin and Sui.

Plus, when did China claim "Ko-ku-ryuh kingdom"? I am very familiar with Chinese history and have never even heard of the "Ko-ku-ryuh kingdom". If this is about Korea, China never claimed anything near Korea as its own. The only area near Korea claimed by China is Manchuria. That was when the Manchurian invaded China and established a dynasty on Chinese soil in the mid 17th century, not that the Chinese wanted to include them into China. Obviously, they would want to include their ancestral home in their own dynasty.

I think you picked the wrong crowd to spread your misinformation. You should've picked a forum that has nothing to do with China/Chinese since they would have no idea what you talk about.

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Plus, when did China claim "Ko-ku-ryuh kingdom"? I am very familiar with Chinese history and have never even heard of the "Ko-ku-ryuh kingdom". If this is about Korea, China never claimed anything near Korea as its own. The only area near Korea claimed by China is Manchuria. That was when the Manchurian invaded China and established a dynasty on Chinese soil in the mid 17th century, not that the Chinese wanted to include them into China. Obviously, they would want to include their ancestral home in their own dynasty.

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He is talking about the kingdom of Goguryo: 高句丽.

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He is talking about the kingdom of Goguryo: 高句丽.

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Oh.. It was conquered by the Chinese in the Tang dynasty and Tang emperors appointed governors to the area for a while. One of the most famous ones was a general who initially conquered Goguryo, Xue Li (Xue Rengui). The people of Goguryo built temples for him. However, China has never considered Goguryo as its own, a colony perhaps but definitely not Chinese land.