Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

[siegecrossbow]

I did some digging on this forum, it seems that the second flight of the J-20 2001 prototype happened on April 18th of 2011 or 97 days after the first flight. So we should expect second flight of J-36 to be approximately three months after December 26th sometime in early April according to J-20 timeline.

Not necessarily. I don’t think you can do a one to one mapping like that.

 

[BillRamengod]

I did some digging on this forum, it seems that the second flight of the J-20 2001 prototype happened on April 18th of 2011 or 97 days after the first flight. So we should expect second flight of J-36 to be approximately three months after December 26th sometime in early April according to J-20 timeline.

Trust me bro.

Out of interest i did a 占卜 just now, Fortune tell me it's on April 7. (just for fun, don't take it seriously)

 

[BillRamengod]

I saw an earlier (technically paid) talkshow by Yankee and ShiLao where Yankee disclosed that they thought about taking J-36 apart and moving it to somewhere less populated for first flight but found the hassle not worth it. Even then, they tried to maintain as much opsec as possible and prevent people from photographing near the airport. But once it is in the air there is no stopping people from leaking photos and videos.

Listened to that show too. I think what they mean is, IF the test flight is to take place deep in the Gobi Desert (to avoid being photographed), what steps need to be taken to make it happen.
So, it's not really a disclosure, but more like using a thought experiment to explain why it didn't happen.

 

[siegecrossbow]

Listened to that show too. I think what they mean is, IF the test flight is to take place deep in the Gobi Desert (to avoid being photographed), what steps need to be taken to make it happen.
So, it's not really a disclosure, but more like using a thought experiment to explain why it didn't happen.

Even if they did it at Yanliang it wouldn’t have been recorded as much.

 

[by78]

Credits to Mplifier on Xiaohongshu

We have a dedicated CGI thread for fan art.

 

[00CuriousObserver]

Pages from 舰载武器

 

[minime]

Pages from 舰载武器

Key number from the magazine scan:

Chengdu 6th gen:
Length: 22.5 meters
Height: 3.5 meters
Wingspan: 24 meters
Empty weight: 23,000 kg
Normal take-off weight: 41,500 kg
Maximum take-off weight: 50,000 kg
Fuel capacity: 18,500 kg
Maximum bomb load: 10,000 kg
Maximum range: no less than 6,000 kilometers
Maximum combat radius: no less than 2,800 kilometers
Engine model: WS-10Cx3
Engine thrust: 8,700 kg/13,800 kg
Maximum ceiling: 25,000 meters
Cruising altitude: 20,000 meters
Maximum flight speed: Mach 2.5
Supersonic cruise speed: Mach 1.35
Supersonic cruise time: no less than 90 minutes
Normal take-off thrust-to-weight ratio: 1.0
Combat thrust-to-weight ratio (half fuel): 1.24

 

[minime]

Put those numbers into perspective:

Super cruising at 20,000 meter/65600 ft, Mach speed is 660mph.
Mach 1.35=890mph/1432kmh
for 90 minutes=1336mile/2150km

Combat radius without refueling basically cover Japan, Indonesia, India, Iran, touch Bering Sea, Guam, Saudi, Ukraine

 

[siegecrossbow]

That’s just speculation.

 

[tphuang]

Key facts from the magazine scan:

Chengdu 6th gen:
Length: 22.5 meters
Height: 3.5 meters
Wingspan: 24 meters
Empty weight: 23,000 kg
Normal take-off weight: 41,500 kg
Maximum take-off weight: 50,000 kg
Fuel capacity: 18,500 kg
Maximum bomb load: 10,000 kg
Maximum range: no less than 6,000 kilometers
Maximum combat radius: no less than 2,800 kilometers
Engine model: WS-10Cx3
Engine thrust: 8,700 kg/13,800 kg
Maximum ceiling: 25,000 meters
Cruising altitude: 20,000 meters
Maximum flight speed: Mach 2.5
Supersonic cruise speed: Mach 1.35
Supersonic cruise time: no less than 90 minutes
Normal take-off thrust-to-weight ratio: 1.0
Combat thrust-to-weight ratio (half fuel): 1.24

What makes you think that a military magazine in China would have the real performance specs of J36 at this early point in its development?