Chengdu next gen combat aircraft (?J-36) thread

Nx4eu

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test flights son, they happen in response to F-47 reveal
No. Where did you get that from? What do the test schedules of Chengdu and Shenyang have to do with the F-47 reveal? Stop believing everything is a response to something else. Those aircraft have been under works regardless of whether the US was pursuing the NGAD or the F/A-XX.
 

ENTED64

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what's the current consensus on the top and cruising speed? Folks over at F-16.net are convinced that it's a bomber that can't even do mach 2 with afterburners
I think at this point any estimates of top/cruising speed would be just speculation, the design phase isn't finished yet and it might not have its intended engine yet if they're working on a new engine for it and are not intending on keeping WS-15. We also don't really know how the 3 engine situation will affect things and how much of that is for energy generation as it is generally predicted that in the coming years fighters will require a lot more electrical power generation.

Furthermore top speed is not really that important a measure, Mig-31 is very fast but I don't really think anybody considers it way more capable than say F-35 which is significantly slower. Indeed F-35 can't do mach 2 and it's pretty clearly not a bomber so the criteria is off to begin with.
 

Nx4eu

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what's the current consensus on the top and cruising speed? Folks over at F-16.net are convinced that it's a bomber incapable of mach 2 even with afterburners
F-16.net are a bunch of folks that will always see anything non-American through Jade-tinted lenses. You can even tell by their name, F-16.net, they are a bunch of F-16 enthusiasts and fanboys. Of course they will ignore all facts and logic and say the J-36 is a slow bomber.

I've seen that cancer forum before, they believe that the J-36 has even worse stealth because it has 'straight ducts', they think there are no s-ducts because they just drew a straight line from the intake to the engine exhaust. Bunch of crayon eaters over there I tell you. If you want real conversation on these new aircraft, stick with sinodefenceforum or even secretprojectsforum, they are much more informed than the average American fanboy.

Metal Gear Rising? Please layoff the sarcasm, I fear this thread is devolving too far into jokes and sarcasm and some people may not be getting any real conversations if everyone becomes jokers.
 

Mearex

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F-16.net are a bunch of folks that will always see anything non-American through Jade-tinted lenses. You can even tell by their name, F-16.net, they are a bunch of F-16 enthusiasts and fanboys. Of course they will ignore all facts and logic and say the J-36 is a slow bomber.

I've seen that cancer forum before, they believe that the J-36 has even worse stealth because it has 'straight ducts', they think there are no s-ducts because they just drew a straight line from the intake to the engine exhaust. Bunch of crayon eaters over there I tell you. If you want real conversation on these new aircraft, stick with sinodefenceforum or even secretprojectsforum, they are much more informed than the average American fanboy.

Metal Gear Rising? Please layoff the sarcasm, I fear this thread is devolving too far into jokes and sarcasm and some people may not be getting any real conversations if everyone becomes jokers.
tbf they are at least higher quality than reddit. No "temu" type comments and mostly analysis. However some of their analysis are straight up... yeah... The typical denial of Chinese air superiority fighter, and the "I don't know what that plane is nor what it's capable of but I know damn sure that F-22 is stealthier/better" assumptions. There's this one particular user that just won't admit that J-36 is meant primarily for A2A despite other users disagreeing, and his one and only argument is that it's big and keeps talking about its wheels. It's such a weird hill to die on...

And as objective as SDF is, it's still inherently biased towards the PLA. I want to see objective discussions from "the other side" as well so I do look for USAF-centered forums.
 
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AssassinsMace

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Regarding the dorsal inlet being bad for ejecting... What situation where you would eject while the engine was running? You're ejecting because most likely your engine is not working so no worry about being sucked into your aircraft engine or the aircraft is breaking apart midair. You're most likely already dead or the nose/cockpit has separated away from the inlet.
 

Mearex

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Regarding the dorsal inlet being bad for ejecting... What situation where you would eject while the engine was running? You're ejecting because most likely your engine is not working so no worry about being sucked into your aircraft engine or the aircraft is breaking apart midair. You're most likely already dead or the nose/cockpit has separated away from the inlet.
I mean you could have the other engines fail. However, if it's side by side seating, wouldn't the seats be ejected out on both sides, or the entire cockpit gets ejected as a capsule? Instead of 2 separate individual seats both being ejected straight up
 
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