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zoolander

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I would like to know all the types of the anti ship missiles china processes. With all the imports of Russian hardware and the rapid deployment of indigous missiles i have lost track.
 

SinoForce

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I would like to know all the types of the anti ship missiles china processes. With all the imports of Russian hardware and the rapid deployment of indigous missiles i have lost track.
I think the PLAN has lost track, too. :rofl: They have so many types of ASM's that it's gotta be a logistical nightmare, and if there's any real shooting they are going to be in real trouble.
 

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I think the PLAN has lost track, too. :rofl: They have so many types of ASM's that it's gotta be a logistical nightmare, and if there's any real shooting they are going to be in real trouble.
The navy only use 2 types of AShM: one is YJ-83 and the other is YJ-62. Well, actually, there is also the moskit. But over all, YJ-83 is the predominant missile used, so it's really not a problem.
 

SinoForce

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The navy only use 2 types of AShM: one is YJ-83 and the other is YJ-62. Well, actually, there is also the moskit. But over all, YJ-83 is the predominant missile used, so it's really not a problem.
Alright, I'll take your word for it but this site lists several different types that are supposed to be in active usage.
 

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I think the PLAN has lost track, too. :rofl: They have so many types of ASM's that it's gotta be a logistical nightmare, and if there's any real shooting they are going to be in real trouble.
I can see your point, the PLAN use the following AShMs:

1. YJ-81 from some Frigate, missile boats etc. (largely being replaced by YJ-83 as and when ships come in for major refit but some units don't look likely to be upgraded).

2. YJ-83 from most current major frigates, destroyers.

3. YJ-81 Sub-launched version

4. YJ-81K air-launched version from JH-7 strike aircraft

5. YJ-82K air-launched version from JH-7 strike aircraft

6. YJ-6 Kraken air-launched varient of the legacy HY-2 anti-ship missile from H-6D anti-ship bomber

7. HY-2 missile from older frigates and maybe still some Luda's (this system is all but useless today).

8. YJ-62 missile from the latest Type-052C destroyers

9. HY-4 shore launched missile

10. SS-N-27 Klub submarine launched missile from Kilo class subs

11. SS-N-22 Sunburn ("Moskit") missile from imported destroyers

12. AS-17A Krypton missile from Flanker Su-30MK2s (unconfirmed)
 

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I can see your point, the PLAN use the following AShMs:

1. YJ-81 from some Frigate, missile boats etc. (largely being replaced by YJ-83 as and when ships come in for major refit but some units don't look likely to be upgraded).

2. YJ-83 from most current major frigates, destroyers.

3. YJ-81 Sub-launched version

4. YJ-81K air-launched version from JH-7 strike aircraft

5. YJ-82K air-launched version from JH-7 strike aircraft

6. YJ-6 Kraken air-launched varient of the legacy HY-2 anti-ship missile from H-6D anti-ship bomber

7. HY-2 missile from older frigates and maybe still some Luda's (this system is all but useless today).

8. YJ-62 missile from the latest Type-052C destroyers

9. HY-4 shore launched missile

10. SS-N-27 Klub submarine launched missile from Kilo class subs

11. SS-N-22 Sunburn ("Moskit") missile from imported destroyers

12. AS-17A Krypton missile from Flanker Su-30MK2s (unconfirmed)
The YJ-8 series, whether it's air launched, sub launched or ship launched, they are still the same series. They shouldn't create that kind of logistical issue.
 

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The YJ-8 series, whether it's air launched, sub launched or ship launched, they are still the same series. They shouldn't create that kind of logistical issue.
Said by the guy who argued that the YJ-83 series and C-802 where completely different systems, lol. Actually, many Navies arond the world have similar logistical problems with anti-ship weapons, including to a point the mighty USN despite its general lack of emphasis on specialist anti-ship missile systems. The worst offender is probably the Russian military though.

One glaring deficiency in the PLAN anti-ship missile arsenal is a helicopter launched missile in the Sea Skua class despite several home grown types being available, such as the TL-10 family and C-702 family.

Taiwan has at least 4 main types of anti-ship missile in service, South Korea at least 3 and Japan 4 or 5.
 

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Said by the guy who argued that the YJ-83 series and C-802 where completely different systems, lol. Actually, many Navies arond the world have similar logistical problems with anti-ship weapons, including to a point the mighty USN despite its general lack of emphasis on specialist anti-ship missile systems. The worst offender is probably the Russian military though.

One glaring deficiency in the PLAN anti-ship missile arsenal is a helicopter launched missile in the Sea Skua class despite several home grown types being available, such as the TL-10 family and C-702 family.

Taiwan has at least 4 main types of anti-ship missile in service, South Korea at least 3 and Japan 4 or 5.
one can go supersonic terminally, one can't. How do you figure? I would say that's a difference.
YJ-83K is the air launched version of YJ-83.
YJ-83 is clearly the standard AShM in PLAN in the mode of Harpoon for USN and Exocet for French Navy. If you really want to bring all those old missile classes in here that are only used on obsolete ships, then there is not much I can say.
 

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one can go supersonic terminally, one can't. How do you figure? I would say that's a difference.
YJ-83K is the air launched version of YJ-83.
YJ-83 is clearly the standard AShM in PLAN in the mode of Harpoon for USN and Exocet for French Navy. If you really want to bring all those old missile classes in here that are only used on obsolete ships, then there is not much I can say.

Haha, well you try anyway.

As for the obsolete missiles, they are still in operational service and need logistics support. The logistics support for a YJ-83 and YJ-83K and YJ-8Q are different, you agree? In the same way French MM-38, MM-40, AM-39 and SM-39 and now MM-40 Block III missiles all require distinct logistics chains.
 
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