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gk1713

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Yes, but from my understanding China generally continues to tolerate a lot of underground churches anyway. Was there anything specific that triggered these arrests?
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There was a reform in Chinese church about 120 years ago emphasizing self-support, self-propagation, and self-governance. It opposed foreign-funded clergy, encouraged believers to evangelize within their daily lives, and promoted locally funded church buildings and leadership training. Most grass root underground church followed this reform.
So clearly those smacked ones are accepting overseas funding.
 

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Public Service Announcement:

Well known Sinophobe and "New Qing History" history revisionist user "virtual-alps-2888" (and his fellow Sinophobic circle jerker "EnclavedMicrostate" who is also the mod of r/chinesehistory) are now advocating on shamelessly vandalising Wikipedia articles about Qing dynasty and any other Chinese history related Wikipedia articles. Their aim is trying to undermine Chinese history as well as to forming a narrative to balkanize China and push anything that contributes to the Anti-Chinese narrative in general. By trying to falsely argue that Qing dynasty is somehow not Chinese, never Sinicized, has nothing to do with China or any related drivels - against all established historical facts and logic. They also want to advocate that any historical literature and interpretations regarding China should all be dominated by Anglo-Western historians (or even Korean and Japanese views) because all Chinese historians are "CCP-nationalist nutjobs" and "Commie Historians". This is blatantly malicious, and all these bad-faith acting all just to push their Sinophobic political agendas is absolutely shameless and pathetic, and a tight slap towards to efforts of preserving authentic and factual account of Chinese History.

And the pushing of this faux "New Qing History" idea is not surprising at all, this is the only way a Sinophobe can support their agenda by trying to disprove the succession and connection between Qing and Modern China. This is all about politics and Sinophobia disguised as a history discussion - and it all starts with advocating for malicious history revisionism.

Wikipedia vandalism is not new, in fact, the current Wikipedia articles about "South Tibet/ AP" and "XiKang Province/ 西康" (aka the ROC era name of eastern Tibet) are not only vandalised, but they are also currently under the permanent control of a group of Indian editors working full time, watching over it permanently and immediately reverse any form of changes. (Anyone that has been a Wiki Editor knows this.) This just further proved how unreliable, dishonest, lack of integrity and easily manipulated Wikipedia is, and especially so against China.

Those 2 users that I had mentioned are a well-known Sinophobes among "chinesehistory" subreddit circles for a reason. They are always pretentious and acting like they are objective but always consistently parroting BS arguments; selectively quoted sources out of context; selectively uses only western sources on China that is biased and politically driven and often debunked; using extremely twisted and obtused interpretation of history, semantics and events, and reaching ridiculous conclusions that are consistently Anti-Chinese. And all these malicious and bad faith behaviors just to revision history to push Sinophobic agendas is despicable and intellectually dishonest. And if these misinformation and malice are limited to just reddit it wouldn't be as big an issue, but now with this blatant and shameless advocacy to outright undermine and vandalise Wikipedia articles about Chinese history with the intend to mislead a much larger audience to pander towards Anti-Chinese history revisionism, this should thus rightfully be brought to attention. People should be vigilant to such despicable and reprehensible actions, and it must be stopped. Their misinformation tactics reminded me of those FLG-affiliated propaganda channels like "China Observer" which I wouldn't be surprised if they are related.

This is a just a PSA announcement that if you happen to see any
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or even just any China/Chinese related Wikipedia entries (and especially with changes that panders to Anti-China and Sinophobic views, or even outright lies and purposeful intellectually dishonest interpretation of history to revision it for the sake of Anti-Chinese agenda), then you know what is going on and who are the scums behind these. And take appropriate actions if possible.

ALSO: please refer to my past writings regarding this new form of malicious Sinophobic tactics. Which is also very relevant to this topic.
 

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Expert1324

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Public Service Announcement:

Well known Sinophobe and "New Qing History" history revisionist user "virtual-alps-2888" (and his fellow Sinophobic circle jerker "EnclavedMicrostate" who is also the mod of r/chinesehistory) are now advocating on shamelessly vandalising Wikipedia articles about Qing dynasty and any other Chinese history related Wikipedia articles. Their aim is trying to undermine Chinese history as well as to forming a narrative to balkanize China and push anything that contributes to the Anti-Chinese narrative in general. By trying to falsely argue that Qing dynasty is somehow not Chinese, never Sinicized, has nothing to do with China or any related drivels - against all established historical facts and logic. They also want to advocate that any historical literature and interpretations regarding China should all be dominated by Anglo-Western historians (or even Korean and Japanese views) because all Chinese historians are "CCP-nationalist nutjobs" and "Commie Historians". This is blatantly malicious, and all these bad-faith acting all just to push their Sinophobic political agendas is absolutely shameless and pathetic, and a tight slap towards to efforts of preserving authentic and factual account of Chinese History.

And the pushing of this faux "New Qing History" idea is not surprising at all, this is the only way a Sinophobe can support their agenda by trying to disprove the succession and connection between Qing and Modern China. This is all about politics and Sinophobia disguised as a history discussion - and it all starts with advocating for malicious history revisionism.

Wikipedia vandalism is not new, in fact, the current Wikipedia articles about "South Tibet/ AP" and "XiKang Province/ 西康" (aka the ROC era name of eastern Tibet) are not only vandalised, but they are also currently under the permanent control of a group of Indian editors working full time, watching over it permanently and immediately reverse any form of changes. (Anyone that has been a Wiki Editor knows this.) This just further proved how unreliable, dishonest, lack of integrity and easily manipulated Wikipedia is, and especially so against China.

Those 2 users that I had mentioned are a well-known Sinophobes among "chinesehistory" subreddit circles for a reason. They are always pretentious and acting like they are objective but always consistently parroting BS arguments; selectively quoted sources out of context; selectively uses only western sources on China that is biased and politically driven and often debunked; using extremely twisted and obtused interpretation of history, semantics and events, and reaching ridiculous conclusions that are consistently Anti-Chinese. And all these malicious and bad faith behaviors just to revision history to push Sinophobic agendas is despicable and intellectually dishonest. And if these misinformation and malice are limited to just reddit it wouldn't be as big an issue, but now with this blatant and shameless advocacy to outright undermine and vandalise Wikipedia articles about Chinese history with the intend to mislead a much larger audience to pander towards Anti-Chinese history revisionism, this should thus rightfully be brought to attention. People should be vigilant to such despicable and reprehensible actions, and it must be stopped. Their misinformation tactics reminded me of those FLG-affiliated propaganda channels like "China Observer" which I wouldn't be surprised if they are related.

This is a just a PSA announcement that if you happen to see any
Please, Log in or Register to view URLs content!
or even just any China/Chinese related Wikipedia entries (and especially with changes that panders to Anti-China and Sinophobic views, or even outright lies and purposeful intellectually dishonest interpretation of history to revision it for the sake of Anti-Chinese agenda), then you know what is going on and who are the scums behind these. And take appropriate actions if possible.

ALSO: please refer to my past writings regarding this new form of malicious Sinophobic tactics. Which is also very relevant to this topic.

@Randomuser
@Ringsword
@FriedButter
@A potato

You guys might need to see this as well, as you guys are also familiar with these types of malicious Sinophobic tactics of using misinformation, lies and obtused arguments to commit blatant history revisionism and falsely rewrite history, so that it can better support a Sinophobe's false Anti-Chinese narrative. And now trying to bring these shameless falsehoods and lies to a much larger audience (via vandalizing Wikipedia), all while disguising it as a "history discussion", is absolutely despicable and should be condemned! People must be vigilant to such malicious actions and actively take action to counter it whenever possible!
 

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@Randomuser
@Ringsword
@FriedButter
@A potato

You guys might need to see this as well, as you guys are also familiar with these types of malicious Sinophobic tactics of using misinformation, lies and obtused arguments to commit blatant history revisionism and falsely rewrite history, so that it can better support a Sinophobe's false Anti-Chinese narrative. And now trying to bring these shameless falsehoods and lies to a much larger audience (via vandalizing Wikipedia), all while disguising it as a "history discussion", is absolutely despicable and should be condemned! People must be vigilant to such malicious actions and actively take action to counter it whenever possible!
At this point there is no point it using reddit and any other western social media because it's pretty obivious is bias against China no matter what. The whole Idea of shared history is bullshit from the start because it's mainly the western view that is viewed as the universial moral authority even though if you look at the actions you can conclude that they're complete hypocrites are abusing this for geopolitical gain. It reminds me so me so much kulangsu international settlement being declared a UNESCO heritage site because it's east meets west fusion despite it not being true in the slightest. It was an corrupt, crime ridden, aparthied state that tried to replace Chinese culture with a western one like Shanghai and it shouldn't be preserved at all.
 

gk1713

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@Randomuser
@Ringsword
@FriedButter
@A potato

You guys might need to see this as well, as you guys are also familiar with these types of malicious Sinophobic tactics of using misinformation, lies and obtused arguments to commit blatant history revisionism and falsely rewrite history, so that it can better support a Sinophobe's false Anti-Chinese narrative. And now trying to bring these shameless falsehoods and lies to a much larger audience (via vandalizing Wikipedia), all while disguising it as a "history discussion", is absolutely despicable and should be condemned! People must be vigilant to such malicious actions and actively take action to counter it whenever possible!
But isn't this a monologue? Written in English, about English thought, for English speakers. This kind of practice has been prevalent in journalism for decades, only to end up covering up China's rapid rise. Finally they will be another Gordon Chang
 

Expert1324

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At this point there is no point it using reddit and any other western social media because it's pretty obivious is bias against China no matter what. The whole Idea of shared history is bullshit from the start because it's mainly the western view that is viewed as the universial moral authority even though if you look at the actions you can conclude that they're complete hypocrites are abusing this for geopolitical gain. It reminds me so me so much kulangsu international settlement being declared a UNESCO heritage site because it's east meets west fusion despite it not being true in the slightest. It was an corrupt, crime ridden, aparthied state that tried to replace Chinese culture with a western one like Shanghai and it shouldn't be preserved at all.
This is not about me using reddit (obviously it is a hopeless and pathetic site), it is about me exposing a disgusting ploy to spread Anti-Chinese lies and it's false history revisionism to a MUCH larger audience via vandalising Wiki articles about China, which is extremely malicious. There is no reason to be oblivious to such malicious actions and people must be aware!!!

But I agree with the rest of your comment. Although many people do believe that having those site is a good constant reminder of the Century of Humiliation - about the disgusting actions of the animalistic west, and that Chinese people should never trust anyone but ourselves, and we must always be strong and never let hubris and any other thing affects the quest for constant national progress.
 
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