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lcloo

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Anyone know how a 051 DDG was transported to Yinchuan to be a museum ship? Was it towed all the way up the yellow river?
Yinchuan city is located just by the Yelloow River. Type 051 is a small destroyer of only 3,670 tons displacement fully loaded. so it is far more easier to move by waterway when it is empty.

She was decommissioned on 15 November 2007 and towed to Yellow River Military Cultural Expo Park, Yinchuan to serve as a museum ship.
 

RoastGooseHKer

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Is there a threat about historical Chinese domestic firearms/artillery from 1840 to 1949? For example, any in-depth discussions about the Chinese Mannlicher 1888, Hanyang 88, Chinese copies of Mauser Gewehr 1971/1898, 6.8mm ammo, etc.?
 

Ringsword

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Is there a threat about historical Chinese domestic firearms/artillery from 1840 to 1949? For example, any in-depth discussions about the Chinese Mannlicher 1888, Hanyang 88, Chinese copies of Mauser Gewehr 1971/1898, 6.8mm ammo, etc.?
Weren't the Chinese restricted/constrained by various unequal treaties with western powers/japan in regards to having a domestic/Chinese arms industry?Not only to cripple national power but also to drain money into foreign arms?
 

RoastGooseHKer

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Weren't the Chinese restricted/constrained by various unequal treaties with western powers/japan in regards to having a domestic/Chinese arms industry?Not only to cripple national power but also to drain money into foreign arms?
Not really. China has attempted to copy western firearms and artillery since its defeat after the First Opium War, but serious efforts did not start until the Self Strengthening Movement and after the Taiping Rebellion. When General Tso (Zuo Zongtang)’s marched west to recover Xinjiang following the Dungen Rebellion, the Hunan Troops under his command were armed with Dreyse Needle Guns and their Chinese copies. Soon those Needle guns would be replaced by the Gewehr 1871. The Chinese had long imported and tried to copy German firearms, and Germany was Qing and ROC’s primary arms supplier.
 
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