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siegecrossbow

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The fact is many in the Chinese ethnic diaspora don’t like being part of a billion plus identity. Look at Japan and South Korea who can’t even escape China’s shadow. What do you think how some feel after the West vilifies all Chinese together? It’s no mistake on their part. It’s wholly intentional so the West can exploit insecurity to get Chinese to do their dirty work by dangling a separate identity. one way you create a separate identity is to look down at the identity you want to get away from.
You have to understand that being diaspora implies something about your identity in the first place. The vast majority of the times, if you liked China and your life in China, you wouldn't leave. Chinese diaspora are typically half-half refugees & economic migrants, in both cases they were not happy with China.

It's only when you consider the 2nd generation, 3rd generation, etc. that there begins to be a sense of "ethnic longing" towards China as a large fraction of the descendants find themselves socially isolated / ostracized in their new, adopted countries. The more conflict with the locals, the worse they're treated, the more they get sentimental about China and develop a desire to identify themselves with their "long lost home land." But by then, it's often too late as they can barely integrate into Chinese society if they went back.

Remember - being a migrant isn't the same as being a colonist. Migrants want to get out of their country, while colonists want to make their country bigger. Migrants want to adopt themselves into a new culture and identity; colonists want to bring their culture and identity to new lands. It's a very different mentality and it's why Chinese colonists in frontier lands are often loyal to China, but Chinese migrants often are not.
 

Thecore

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It's only when you consider the 2nd generation, 3rd generation, etc. that there begins to be a sense of "ethnic longing" towards China as a large fraction of the descendants find themselves socially isolated / ostracized in their new, adopted countries. The more conflict with the locals, the worse they're treated, the more they get sentimental about China and develop a desire to identify themselves with their "long lost home land." But by then, it's often too late as they can barely integrate into Chinese society if they went back.
The tragedy of my life in a nutshell...
 

vincent

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Been seeing a lot of posts on Chinese social media crapping on Singapore these days. Not sure what happened.

We know theres already a huge influx of Indians in Singapore but that's not new. It's been like that for a while. So I'm not sure what's so special about this time.

The big one that soured the mood was when Takaichi basically said Japan would intervene in Taiwan scenario, China reacted strongly with travel advisory, sanctions and diplomatic offensive.

Then a few days later when asked about it, Singapore PM said:


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So we should look at Taiwan very seriously and really find ways to prevent conflict from even happening.
A lot of conversation in America has been an emphasis on deterrence – deter China from invasion.
No one has a good answer, but we should not allow a move away from the status quo that is done in a non-peaceful manner, and that would include deterring invasion, deterring any aggressive moves, but it would also include deterring unilateral moves toward independence.
The concern, of course, is that there might be unilateral moves.

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And it is quite striking that survey after survey shows that Japan is the number one trusted great power in Southeast Asia. And so Singapore and all the Southeast Asian countries support Japan playing a bigger role in our region, including on the security front, because we think that provides for some stability in the region.
Who the hell he think he is?
 
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vincent

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You have to understand that being diaspora implies something about your identity in the first place. The vast majority of the times, if you liked China and your life in China, you wouldn't leave. Chinese diaspora are typically half-half refugees & economic migrants, in both cases they were not happy with China.

It's only when you consider the 2nd generation, 3rd generation, etc. that there begins to be a sense of "ethnic longing" towards China as a large fraction of the descendants find themselves socially isolated / ostracized in their new, adopted countries. The more conflict with the locals, the worse they're treated, the more they get sentimental about China and develop a desire to identify themselves with their "long lost home land." But by then, it's often too late as they can barely integrate into Chinese society if they went back.

Remember - being a migrant isn't the same as being a colonist. Migrants want to get out of their country, while colonists want to make their country bigger. Migrants want to adopt themselves into a new culture and identity; colonists want to bring their culture and identity to new lands. It's a very different mentality and it's why Chinese colonists in frontier lands are often loyal to China, but Chinese migrants often are not.
I hope you do know majority of the Chinese diaspora in South East Asia have been there for decades, if not centuries.
 
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