2026 Israel - Iranian conflict
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Although I voted 'yes,' after discussing with my friends, it seems there is little reason for a second Iran-Israel war to occur in the near future.
This round of unrest in Iran is not as intense or deadly as previous ones. Netanyahu is not facing urgent legal pressure either.
If Khamenei cannot be killed directly, the new round of air raids does not seem to have the expectation of better results than 12-day war. And recent rumors have probably prompted Iran to shelter their Supreme Leader in a bunker that regular weapons cannot penetrate.
This round of unrest in Iran is not as intense or deadly as previous ones. Netanyahu is not facing urgent legal pressure either.
If Khamenei cannot be killed directly, the new round of air raids does not seem to have the expectation of better results than 12-day war. And recent rumors have probably prompted Iran to shelter their Supreme Leader in a bunker that regular weapons cannot penetrate.
Iran's situation has been steadily declining fir a while. The most recent round of protests has a chance of escalating to something major, especially since the government has again started wholesale massacre of protesters. I hope Iranians manage to finally shrug off their terrible government and start building a country not hell-bent on burning itself on some ideological crusade at the expense of its citizens.
It is interesting the range of opinion you get here on SDF. From standard State Department talking points to ultra-leftists with everything in between.
It is also kind of disconcerting to see how wedded to narratives some people are without really being able to find the facts or trying to understand alternative points of view even in the supposed information age, but that is a whole different topic.
To me, the notion that there is a wholesale massacre of protesters and that this is a frequent occurrence is a glaring example of this phenomenon. There have been crackdowns in Iran, the most notable being in 1988, but I don't know of an incident as glaring as what happened in Minneapolis a few days ago ever. Now if someone were to say the US is a carceral state where law enforcement wantonly murders unarmed civilians, I would hope people would find that reductive. I think it would be great if we could apply a consistent lens to other nations as well, especially when they might be facing the most aggressive intelligence and media operation in the world.
Of course, we all have our biases and what I find particularly glaring might not be to other people and vice-vera
It is also kind of disconcerting to see how wedded to narratives some people are without really being able to find the facts or trying to understand alternative points of view even in the supposed information age, but that is a whole different topic.
To me, the notion that there is a wholesale massacre of protesters and that this is a frequent occurrence is a glaring example of this phenomenon. There have been crackdowns in Iran, the most notable being in 1988, but I don't know of an incident as glaring as what happened in Minneapolis a few days ago ever. Now if someone were to say the US is a carceral state where law enforcement wantonly murders unarmed civilians, I would hope people would find that reductive. I think it would be great if we could apply a consistent lens to other nations as well, especially when they might be facing the most aggressive intelligence and media operation in the world.
Of course, we all have our biases and what I find particularly glaring might not be to other people and vice-vera
Reported "massacres" will always get distorted esp when the world is heading towards more chaotic times.
For me personally what I consider most important right now is the government's ability to keep things under control from a systemic point of view. Color revolutions may look very hard on the surface because usually there are legitimate grievances. But at the end of the day I believe you can still counter them. We know about use of force but thats one just one aspect. Other areas I think you need to counter them are proper security controls, intelligence and surveillance, information control and cybersecurity. I think a lot of countries lag behind measures related to cybersecurity and internet stuff. Like they don't know to effectively cut off the ringleaders from their followers and punish them hard like cutting off funding or even getting the ringleaders themselves.
I always thought stuff like cybersecurity were just corporate buzzwords. But now after writing it myself, I kinda understand why this stuff is so important esp in the internet age. Its not something just for harmless nerd trolls. It has real impact. Thats why I think you need a lot of tech expertise esp related to IT stuff to fight this. If not you're in deep trouble. Just imagine how much AI slop is ready to be used.
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Iran definitely bit off more than it can chew through wholesale ineffective investment in its proxies. I'll argue that overcommitment to militias spent a lot of money that could've went to grow/stabilize the economy which would've done a lot to alleviate domestic unrest. You can't lose a war and have your economy crash and burn at the same time and somehow expect to come out ahead.
People don't flock to the West just because they have been brainwashed, often times those countries have been mismanaged for decades. There's only so much crushing poverty you can take before revolutionary fervor wear off and alternatives start looking attractive.
People don't flock to the West just because they have been brainwashed, often times those countries have been mismanaged for decades. There's only so much crushing poverty you can take before revolutionary fervor wear off and alternatives start looking attractive.
That's the Pahlavi dynasty flag of Iran
Granddaughter of Iranian Shah marries Jewish American
Monarchists and supporters from the Iranian diaspora took to social media to celebrate the marriage of the last shah of Iran’s granddaughter to a Jewish American entrepreneur on Monday.Iman Pahlavi and Bradley Sherman married in Paris after a civil courthouse marriage in New York.
Exiled Iranian Crown Prince the father of the bride, attended the wedding.
Many of the online messages extolled the symbolic nature of the interfaith union, as well as their lack of support for the .
The couple included the hora, a traditional Jewish dance, in their wedding celebration, videos on social media showed.
Pahlavi was raised in the United States after the royal family fled Iran following the 1979 Islamic Revolution.
The Pahlavi family maintains popularity among monarchists even after their years in exile.
Reza Pahlavi wants a world without the Islamic Republic
Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi previously called on the international community to imagine “a world without the Islamic Republic,” during his to the Iranian people.“Imagine the Middle East liberated from the shadow of nuclear blackmail and threats,” he said. “Imagine our region without endless proxy wars, extremist ideologies, and terrorism – all driven by a regime whose policies have caused mass migration, instability, and suffering far beyond Iran’s borders.
“Imagine a Western world free from hostage-taking and Western troops and taxpayers free of the burden of endless wars in far-off lands,” he said, apparently referring to the from the October 7 massacre.
Pahlavi concluded his statement by saying that a “new Iran,” without the Islamic Republic, “is no longer a distant dream but a reality being forged today by the hands of its own people.”
There's a reason I never liked this larping Monarch. His dad would be spinning in his grave considering he openly cursed Israel in his later years.
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Its proxies kept it safe from Isis. Also, economically Iran is doing fine compared with its neighbors and has a good economic base, their education is good, and their healthcare is good. Their biggest problem is the sanctions and threats from the west. The protests aren't for any specific policy other than government bad, it's the same as the Tiananmen protests, they won't achieve anything but to sow chaos which makes Iran weaker to outside attacks.