The War in the Ukraine
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The amount of Su-35 losses the Russians had since the conflict started don't amount to even one year of production. The Russian Su-35 has a huge advantage versus Ukrainian aircraft. Its main opponent thus far has been long range air defenses.
Most aviation losses were attack helicopters, Su-25, and Su-34 frontline attack aircraft. Su-34 losses decreased by an order of magnitude with the switch to standoff strikes with glide bombs. The Su-25 and attack helicopters clearly need technical changes to become more survivable. Better integration with sensor drones, long range weapons like LMUR or Hermes.
Most aviation losses were attack helicopters, Su-25, and Su-34 frontline attack aircraft. Su-34 losses decreased by an order of magnitude with the switch to standoff strikes with glide bombs. The Su-25 and attack helicopters clearly need technical changes to become more survivable. Better integration with sensor drones, long range weapons like LMUR or Hermes.
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The way Ukraine keeps attacking Russia in deep areas and keep inflicting losses. I am worried again that Russia might lose. They are not gaining anything these days. Ukraine is on the ascendance
I don’t think so. Ukraine performed well tactically of late but this does not change the big strategic picture, which is stacked against them. China has effectively cut off drone part supplies to them and they don’t have a pool of man power to draw upon to continue the conflict for much longer. Recently when Russia suggested repatriation of 6000 Ukrainian soldiers to Ukraine, the offer was refused, indicating that they either don’t have money for the soldiers’ family or don’t want to acknowledge the losses and kill ratio.
Ukraine seems like its about to lose the entire Sumy region including the capital.
There's a difference between what looks good its terms of optics and what actually is effective on the battlefield. Destroying symbolic stuff like bridges far away makes for great headlines. But it doesn't have a significant effect on the battlefield compared to say destroying a key ammo depot or losing a critical route used to supply troops. However those things are boring and don't make good headlines,
The attack on Kursk is actually a great example of this. Sounds very promising and made huge headlines. Showed Ukraine was doing enough to even take the fight to Russian lands. Now? Its considered a huge mistake and people are asking who thought it was a good idea. Honestly that kinda pisses me off because not that long ago these same people were also circlejerking Zelenksy for it. Don't pretend you didnt support it now when it didn't go your way.
Maybe they are holding this will crush Russian morale. But they seem to forget if Russia loses this, the whole country could be finished. People are fighting for survival here. So they will still fight no matter how bad it looks.
The attack on Kursk is actually a great example of this. Sounds very promising and made huge headlines. Showed Ukraine was doing enough to even take the fight to Russian lands. Now? Its considered a huge mistake and people are asking who thought it was a good idea. Honestly that kinda pisses me off because not that long ago these same people were also circlejerking Zelenksy for it. Don't pretend you didnt support it now when it didn't go your way.
Maybe they are holding this will crush Russian morale. But they seem to forget if Russia loses this, the whole country could be finished. People are fighting for survival here. So they will still fight no matter how bad it looks.
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The effect of Ukraine's drone attack on Russian airbases shows that they can attack anywhere in Russia, but only if they planned like a year or a year and a half before hand. And most of the aircraft destroyed were strategic bombers that are more relevent to NATO and USA rather than on battlefields in Ukraine.
In way NATO and US should be quite pleased that Ukraine managed to reduce Russia's strategic strenght, and may influence NATO's decision to increase arms shipment and monentary aids to Ukraine. However, the price paid by Ukraine is Russia's revenge in one of the most destrutive missile and drone attack.
On the ground, Russians are still pushing and gaining territories eventhough very slowly. Attacks on Russian airbases has little effect on frontlines.
As on drones, Ukrainians seem to be progressing onward to self-made drones rather than buying from outher countries, especially the suicide drones. I have just watch a CCTV reporting yeaterday with video footages on a Ukrainian workshop using several dozens of 3D printers making drone parts, with reported production capacity of 4,000 drones a month.
If they have several such workshops, they will have sustainable supply of FPV drones.
In a big picture, neither side can make fast progress if NATO keep on pumping weapons and money into Ukraine, this may be a long war.
In way NATO and US should be quite pleased that Ukraine managed to reduce Russia's strategic strenght, and may influence NATO's decision to increase arms shipment and monentary aids to Ukraine. However, the price paid by Ukraine is Russia's revenge in one of the most destrutive missile and drone attack.
On the ground, Russians are still pushing and gaining territories eventhough very slowly. Attacks on Russian airbases has little effect on frontlines.
As on drones, Ukrainians seem to be progressing onward to self-made drones rather than buying from outher countries, especially the suicide drones. I have just watch a CCTV reporting yeaterday with video footages on a Ukrainian workshop using several dozens of 3D printers making drone parts, with reported production capacity of 4,000 drones a month.
If they have several such workshops, they will have sustainable supply of FPV drones.
In a big picture, neither side can make fast progress if NATO keep on pumping weapons and money into Ukraine, this may be a long war.
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Just to be clear, when Gerans were striking the Antonov plant in Dniperpetrovosk, from the footage I saw, there were two SAM launches from two separate sites. This was at night and the camera was looking at the horizon. Then after a while, both sites were rapidly firing SAMs like zoom zoom and zoom right at the sky. Then afterwards something bright flashed down at the sky where the supposed sight of the SAMs were being fired and there was a huge flash then cloud. The same thing happened on the second site. All the while there were the sounds of Geran drones making the terminal run and hits.
It was only some days later I thought these were actually Patriot sites. The Patriot has an emergency routine where it would unleash all it's missiles into the air when it knows it's goose is cooked. The procedure is to prevent munitions cook off, minimizing the damage that will be inflicted on the ground. Smart if you ask me.
Plus this featured event, and you have three highly likely Patriot system take downs.
Once again I mentioned before that some Gerans and Gerbera decoy drones are equipped with optical cameras that are used for objective verification of target kill, and to spot for targets of opportunity in which an Iskander is sent. This is the new face of AD suppression.
Recently there's a Russian claim of a Ukrainian MiG-29 shoot down using a Buk-M3. The MiG might have been on a glide bomb mission.
That's because you believe narrative created by West mass media