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Eventine

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China has already sat a goal of deploying 6G in 2030 and is light years ahead of the US.
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China dominates research in 6G and optical – report​


Chinese researchers have opened a dominant lead over the US in exploring critical technologies, including 6G and advanced optical, a think tank has found.

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, the Australian Strategic Policy Institute (ASPI) has concluded that China leads in 37 out of 44 technology areas. "China is further ahead in more areas than has been realized," it said. In many fields it is producing more than five times as much high-impact research as its closest competitor.

Of the ten AI and ICT-related technologies examined, China dominates in seven, the study concluded. In new 5G and 6G radio, it designates China's lead as "high-risk," meaning it is a long way ahead of its closest competitor and that it is home to most of the world's leading research bodies in that field.

It says Chinese researchers are responsible for 29.7% of high-impact research papers on new radio research, followed by the US on 9.5% and the UK on 5.2%. In advanced optical, China leads the US by 37.7% to 12.8%.

Going dark to US intelligence

In machine learning and natural language processing, ASPI says China and the US are neck and neck, while China has a healthy lead in the other ICT areas including advanced data analytics, AI algorithms and cybersecurity. China also dominates in three out of four quantum research fields, including quantum communication, while the US leads in small satellites and space launch systems.

ASPI warns that China's advanced research "at the intersection of" photonic sensors, quantum communications, optical communications and post-quantum cryptography could undermine the US-led "Five Eyes" global intelligence network.

"Taken together, these observations increase the risk of Chinese communications going dark to the efforts of western intelligence services," it said.

The ASPI study is based on an analysis of the top 10% most-cited papers in each area of research published between 2018 and 2022 – a total of 2.2 million papers. It acknowledges that a widely cited piece of research does not automatically translate into successfully deployed technology. The study also does not reflect the current state of commercialization or of technology diffusion.

ASPI said its research will be updated with the aim of assessing the future tech capabilities of nations and to highlight long-term strategic trends.
The US can be trusted to abandon its "global IP protection" ambitions and pass a law making it legal to steal Chinese IP as the situation shifts. After all, they did it before in the 19th century when they refused to recognize foreign IP.
 

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Each of these companies seems to have their own software solution for this. I am not sure I see exactly where they need to adopt USG-approved (backdoor riddled) software. Is USG going to pick one of those and force all the others to use the same software?
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you know cloud RAN are baseband and radio SW running on generic purpose CPUs and Virtual Machines like Aazon, Google and Huawei Cloud etc. In an analog, Cloud computing machines are like platform PC+Windows, the Cloud RAN is like Office Suit. US has the platform, Ericsson, Nokia and Samsung has the Office Suit. Huawei has both.

I've never heard of Ericsson, Nokia and Samsung offering cloud computing solutions, nor hearing them developing anything in their road map.
Do you instead mean that they want cloud RAN to be running from US-based data centers? That would make a lot more sense, but I don't think France or Hungary would accept any less than EU cloud RAN running in EU data centers. Germany, UK, and all the others though... I can see them going for whatever the US says.
No, I meant US produced cloud infrastructure, regardless where it is located. It is not about spying, it is about US get into the technology arena by something they are strong. That is what USG intends to do.
 
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Not sure why people still argue that India isn't a lost cause. From Mao to now, China has always tried but failed to reason with India. The reason is logic and reason and rationality don't apply to India.
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It's all about pride. India has never been short on pride. Whether it's Nehru in 1962 challenging China along the border, or Modi in 2022 banning Chinese apps, it always comes down to pride. India believes itself to be a super power and that's how you win elections in India - by appearing "tough" and "strong" to other countries. They hate displays of weakness even more than Chinese.

So yeah, where it might've benefited India to be more humble or to compromise, in the end they always default to "India strong" because it's what wins elections. This is what the US has been doing lately, talking about the Indian century and how India is so important, and Modi is loving it, his popularity is going to the sky.
 

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you know cloud RAN are baseband and radio SW running on generic purpose CPUs and Virtual Machines like Aazon, Google and Huawei Cloud etc. In an analog, Cloud computing machines are like platform PC+Windows, the Cloud RAN is like Office Suit. US has the platform, Ericsson, Nokia and Samsung has the Office Suit. Huawei has both.

I've never heard of Ericsson, Nokia and Samsung offering cloud computing solutions, nor hearing them developing anything in their road map.
Then please explain the meaning of those 3 web pages. If this is just about them being operated out of US data centers, my point still stands that I highly doubt the EU/France/South Korea/Japan etc. will voluntarily let their own national networks be operated out of data centers in the geographical US. And it goes without saying that any US network would be operated out of the geographical US. So what is even your point about how much this advances US interests? Sounds like empty political theatrics. The US will try to find or create back doors into anything and everything anyways, so the only independence comes from using as much Huawei as possible. Preferably all Huawei and nothing but Huawei. Anything and everything else is just a US puppet network.
 
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Sanctions are failing. This is basically the last throw on Russia, which we should expect to happen on China sooner or later. Either way, this move is going to slam Russia much further into a relation with China economy and exports.

G7 mulling near-total ban on exports to Russia – Bloomberg​

Ukraine’s allies are considering an embargo on nearly all exports to Russia, Bloomberg reported on Thursday, citing sources close to the discussions.

According to the news outlet, officials in G7 countries are finalizing a proposal which could be put forward at the US-led group’s next summit in Japan, scheduled for May. Sources claim they plan to persuade EU members to join the new measures.

While precise details of the proposal are not yet clear, the step would reportedly involve a ban on all exports to Russia, unless exemptions are granted. Sources told the news outlet that medicines, food, and agricultural products are the most likely products to be excluded from the restrictions.
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Sanctions are failing. This is basically the last throw on Russia, which we should expect to happen on China sooner or later. Either way, this move is going to slam Russia much further into a relation with China economy and exports.


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Will Russia halt the export of fertilizers in response to this? This may have huge ramifications for food security around the globe.
 

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As other member said, this would significant boost China's exports. Used cars, tires, cosmetic items and clothing are replaceable. Japan would be the one got screwed.
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The Group of Seven countries are considering banning almost all exports to Russia, in an extension of the sanctions regime against Moscow for its ongoing invasion of Ukraine, a Japanese government source said Friday.


Japan is set to host the G-7 summit in May in Hiroshima, western Japan, where discussions will take place on measures to expand support to Ukraine and strengthen sanctions on Russia among other key topics.

The G-7 countries have already stopped exporting a wide range of items to Russia, including products that can be used for military purposes and luxury goods. But the latest plan could expand the trade embargo to used cars, tires, cosmetic items and clothing, the source said.

The May 19-21 summit brings together leaders of Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan and the United States, plus the European Union.

Japanese Prime Minister Fumio Kishida has invited Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy to join the gathering online.
 

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Sanctions are failing. This is basically the last throw on Russia, which we should expect to happen on China sooner or later. Either way, this move is going to slam Russia much further into a relation with China economy and exports.


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This Japan and Korea deflecting pressure for the direct trade through Valdivostok. Japan and Korea may have been basically run out quality used car and Russian consumer not into EVs new or used or the small RHD Japanese Kei vehicles.
i dont think Hyundai is economical to produce in Kazakhstan.
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One Armenian car trader, who did not want to be identified, said the import boom began “in the middle of last year.”

“My guess is that 70-80 percent of the cars are then exported to the Russian Federation,” he told RFE/RL’s Armenian Service.
Other goods manufactured in third countries are also re-exported from Armenia to Russia due to the Western sanctions. This explains why Armenian exports to Russia nearly tripled, to $2.4 billion, in 2022.

Official Armenian statistics also shows that individual cash remittances from Russia to Armenia quadrupled to almost $3.2 billion in January-November 2022. The soaring trade with and cash flows from Russia are the main reason why the Armenian economy grew by 12.6 percent last year.




Koreans are saying shell depend on bigger outcry. but not revealing the real reason of hesitation.

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A senior official in the presidential office responded to Russia's backlash, by saying, "It's like commenting on something that hasn't happened yet. What we do depends on what Russia will do in the future.” “There is no legal provision in our constitution that prohibits arms support for foreign countries involved in arms conflict,” the official added. This remark hinted at the possibility of military aid in the event of a mass civilian casualty that would infuriate the international community.

Hyo-Ju Son [email protected] · Kyu-Jin Shin [email protected]
 

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LMAO.

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Apparently, the US elites have chosen religious zealotry to counter China. They figure it worked in Afghanistan against the soviets so why not have a Christian Taliban at home.


You’ll notice Indians in the west trying to claim glory over now being the worlds largest country and presumably largest consumer market…if only the impoverished malnourished Indians would spend the daily bread money on $5000 Prada bags, designer clothing, consumer electronics, iPhones and you guessed it, cars like BMW. At best, indias middle class consumer market rivals that of Indonesia.
China is a different ball game, China’s true rival is the EU single market but with BRI and the China - ASEAN FTA, there’s a reason BRICS now surpass the G7 in size.
 
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