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Eventine

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It is like a loser mentality. When you can't compete, you change the rules.
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Marx wrote a book about it, but even if a person has never read the book, if we just took ten seconds to think through what "free market capitalism" means, it should become obvious that the entire goal of capitalism is "rich gets richer." That's only become more the case, over time, with the rise of financialized capitalism, which is what the US ended up making its main ideology and the basis of the international system.

The "rules," in other words, were made to be beneficial to the West and to maintain its hegemony. They were never fair. They were never intended to give a level playing field. When Google or Facebook or Microsoft comes to your country with hundreds of billions of capital behind them, they are not competing fairly against your back yard start ups. When Western whale funds come in and buy up your most promising companies and talent, they are not competing fairly against your village businesses.

Yet you still have useful idiots in so many countries buying into Western propaganda and thinking this is "fair" and that it's China that's "not playing fair" just because Chinese leaders were intelligent and organized enough to realize that the West was playing a rigged game, and that the only correct response to that is to **** the rules. I just don't get how people can be that stupid. The West created a winner-takes-all system where they're already the winners, and we're supposed to go "oh yeah, totally fair?"
 

luminary

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Even if it doesn't happen by then, I think it will happen by 2027. I mean collapsing of both the USD and subsequently the USA.

Or whatever else China decides to take back Taiwan, I'm 90% sure that the USA will collapse around that time. I don't think however, they will collapse on their own, they need a final push. They are already 95% done with their empire's lifespan, just one more final push from China is needed.

I mean at that time of AR, China will dump its own reserves of the dollar, to respond to the US sanctions, causing a massive avalanche of selling around the globe. There will be massive supply chain issues at the same time due to the conflict. I think at that time, due to both of these factors, the US will experience triple-digit hyperinflation hence huge unemployment, and recession, and disintegrate from all of that.

From a sociological standpoint, America already socially collapsed, and the only thinking keeping them all in one place is the money-printing machine. And when that is gone, I see absolutely no way of their survival. As a student of history, I could bet my life on their collapse.

It all aligned perfectly with how countries around the world are currently dumping the dollar. I think everything will be ready by 2027.
The banking crisis really has come at the worst time for the US, and China is only going to continue to bury them with the de-dollarization drive. The beauty of de-dollarization is that it's like a bank run- the moment nations realize it's actually happening, everybody rushes for the door pro-yuan or not, because nobody wants to be holding onto an useless sack of dollars at the end. Maybe even the China-Japan-SK trilateral summit will have some currency swap talk included.

If China and OPEC can nuke the Western financial system into a depression, and possibly cripple Silicon Valley at it, then this "cold war" will be over before it even started. At best, a normal depression lasts 18 months. The 2008 crisis had effects that lingered for years. Can the EU survive another winter at war with Russia, this time with China competing for their precious LNG supplies? By the US's wish date of "war by 2025", they could be stuck in the middle of a depression, abandoned by its European allies, and tech companies barely afloat.

 
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gelgoog

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The US Federal Reserve and Government created the banking crisis. They printed a boatload of money during COVID-19 creating the conditions for massive inflation down the line. By sanctioning and sabotaging Russian energy and commodities, they cause a global rise in commodities prices further increasing inflation. Then they try to soak up the excess liquidity with the rapid rise in rates, which in turn led to the collapse in market value of the US treasury holdings that banks held. Thus leading banks like SVB to insolvency.
 

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Russia ready for meeting between Lavrov, Blinken in UN headquarters — diplomat​

The Russian side has never "run away from whatever meetings with those people who want these meetings," Russian Permanent Representative to the United Nations Vasily Nebenzya noted
UNITED NATIONS, April 4. /TASS/. Russia is ready to a possible meeting between Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Secretary of State Antony Blinken during the Minister’s visit to the UN Headquarters on April 24-25 if the US side has the desire to meet, Russian Permanent Representative to the United Nations Vasily Nebenzya said at a press conference.
"I think that depends on two factors. First, where Secretary Blinken will be at that time, and on his ability and willingness to meet with our Foreign Minister," the Russian diplomat said.
The Russian side has never "run away from whatever meetings with those people who want these meetings," he noted.
"If such a meeting is requested, I presume that Minister Lavrov will be ready to meet Secretary Blinken," Nebenzya added.

Did the US just lose the game of chicken? I guess we'll soon find out.
 

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eprash

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well, Northern Chinese has almost 0 Mongol influence. There's literally more influence on Northern China from India than from Mongolia due to Sanskrit origin words: 刹那 (ksana), 苹果 (bimba), 涅槃 (nirvana), 昙花 (udumbara).
Xianbei and Jie were pastoral steppe people obviously they got absorbed like Manchu, Southern China didn't have that much exposure to nomads since the terrain wasn't suitable for cavalry warfare that much
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AssassinsMace

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It is like a loser mentality. When you can't compete, you change the rules.
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Not sure what they can do about it since Chinese companies don't need the US market. US companies need their products outsourced to China in order to make every penny they can. It's like Trump threatening to slap tariffs "on the rest of China's exports" to the US. He never carried it out because the rest were US companies that outsource to China shipping their products to the US.

Are they going to subsidize US companies to strengthen their chosen champions to counter? Like I've been saying... Everything the West does cost more for them to do than China. Nothing they can do can beat that. Even if they make some technological discovery, they will have a hard time without China to make it commercially viable because everything cost more for them to do. I've pointed out a technology displayed at CES. It was being able to show video displayed in a pane of glass. Not a Chinese invention but China was able to develop it to make the costs go down to where still expensive at the moment for an everyday consumer but some rich company maybe able to buy it now.

It doesn't disturb me when I hear how a Western allied country thinks it can decouple from China like finding some rare earth deposit claiming they can break from China. It's still going to cost them more money because most rare earths can be found everywhere. It's the processing and refining that's arduous and makes it costly. That's why even the US ships their ore they dig up to China to be refined. Nothing they do can change that. That's pretty much the same for everything else.

Why is the US is calling on the G7 to act against Chinese economic coercion? It's because the other G7 partners are complaining about it to the US who seems to be doing nothing to help them when they're following the US lead against China. The West is bragging about they're closer together than ever before as a sign of their strength. Why do they need to brag about that when they're treaty allies? They're suppose to be close. The reason why they need to spin that is because circling your wagons as in their last stand also makes them look like they're closer than ever... literally physically. If they were coming from a position of strength, no need for all these Western allied countries' leaders planning to travel to Beijing to meet up with Xi Jinping.

So I'm reading articles and watching YouTube videos about what seems like the world dumping the dollar. On one hand you read how it does nothing then you have Americans threatening countries who are playing with dumping the dollar to do the very thing that is making countries think of dropping the dollar. Like I've said before. Americans can't admit they were wrong. They have been charging China for weaponizing economics. The reason why countries are planning to drop the dollar is because the US is weaponizing economics. The West is all alarmed over supply chain vulnerabilities. They didn't worry about that before until the US started denying "supplies" as in computer chips to countries like China. They're the ones that opened that Pandora's Box.
 

emblem21

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Dan Andrew (Vic state premier)'s trip to China has opened the floodgate:

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I'm quite a fan of Dan Andrew, he's always been pretty friendly to China and BRI despite political pressure. Once the multipolar world is established I think it's right to give him the title of Old Friend of Chinese people.
And the people of Victoria have voted him back in because well, those stupid liberal bast@rds (who are so anti Chinese that I am pretty positive that almost all the Asians made sure they didn’t get in, which I am proud of btw) basically bashed China without offering anything for the future except suck Americas ding ding. Given that he will be around for a bit longer at least there is some hope unlike for the USA which has completely lost its marbles
 

plawolf

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Since you are a software engineer, can you answer a simple question from me, a non-software engineer?

How come they can't just ask ChatGPT "how do we maintain US dollar as the dominant reserve currency without increasing unemployment by more than 5% and without increasing inflation by more than 10%?" and just carry out its instructions?

isn't chatGPT the supreme AI that dominates everything and is the only tech that matters according to some of the other posters here? Thanks.

Because ChatGBT is American made and programmed with American ways of thinking. If it was allowed to actually answer such questions per its programming, it’s response would be to simply genocide the Chinese so there is no option but to keep using the dollar. Hence they gagged it on sensitive questions where it might give too honest and answer.
 
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