The War in the Ukraine

ZeEa5KPul

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How much progress has Russia made since July?
It's made this much progress
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Unfortunately, water systems and food storage and distribution infrastructure are not so readily visualized, so measuring progress there will be more complicated and susceptible to bias and deceit.
 

anzha

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It's made this much progress

Unfortunately, water systems and food storage and distribution infrastructure are not so readily visualized, so measuring progress there will be more complicated and susceptible to bias and deceit.

I posted the pictures a few days ago. That's not progress.

Bomber Harris and madman Curtis LeMay didn't break the will of the Germans with heavy bombings. The Japanese were not broken by it either.

Note: the power outages are on the Russian side of the line, too.
 

pmc

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If the Russians invaded with less than 180k, it does not speak well of their intel ops or their planning whatsoever.

But then, here we are, day 276 of the war between what was supposed to be a superpower and a 3rd rate army. This isn't a guerilla war like any of the Afghanistan conflicts of the last 50 years or any of the insurgencies of the last century and change. This is a conventional war.

Kherson was supposed to be part of Russia now. That is be part of their overtly stated objectives.

How much progress has Russia made since July?
the only logical conclusion can be made that Russia want to exaggerate the size of its forces to attack Ukraine by opening many fronts simultaneously there be forcing Ukrainians to over mobilize. this over mobilization can create much more targets for long range missiles.
objectives are much beyond ukraine.
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anzha

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the only logical conclusion can be made that Russia want to exaggerate the size of its forces to attack Ukraine by opening many fronts simultaneously there be forcing Ukrainians to over mobilize. this over mobilization can create much more targets for long range missiles.
objectives are much beyond ukraine.

And yet, the long range missiles are being used against infrastructure that existed before the war and hasn't moved since.

Where have those missiles struck to support the immediate combat operations? Surely, there must be examples you can show if what you are saying is accurate. Where in Kherson? The Donbas? Kharkov?
 

anzha

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The hunting double barelled shot gun with the barrel in the mud beside the rpg ( Instalaza C90?? ) is clearly a pipebomb waiting to happen...

Yep it look like a chaotic looking WWI.

It looks like hell. It's interesting. A tank captain I talked to 25 years ago suggested WWIII between the Soviet Union and NATO would have devolved into a high tech WWI. The double barrel isn't exactly high tech though...
 

anzha

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For pro Russian OSInt you can look at TRIBUN-TIMUR.COM video on youtube. Posting the Ukraine equipment loss at each video ends.

Thank you. Is it just video or do they have a website of losses? I'll add them to my listen feed even so. I appreciate it.
 

ZeEa5KPul

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I posted the pictures a few days ago. That's not progress.
It very much is progress. How many inches a frontline moves in 24 hours isn't the measure of progress, that's a secondary battlefield. The real war is waged on the strategic level (where the light map is a much truer measure of progress than trench lines) and Ukraine's fate is sealed there because Russia can annihilate its existence as a functioning state and is doing exactly that.
Bomber Harris and madman Curtis LeMay didn't break the will of the Germans with heavy bombings. The Japanese were not broken by it either.
Curtis LeMay was not a madman, he was evil. Your argument is a piece of moralizing sophistry intended to obfuscate a simple truth: no matter how determined an enemy, a sufficient level of atrocity will break him. It's the same argument moralizers use when they claim that torture doesn't work. Of course torture works and the fact that it so obviously does undermines fatally undermines their argument. Arguing that atrocities work but shouldn't be committed is the sound moral argument to make, if one is inclined to argue from such a perspective.

Germany was broken by mass bombardment and Japan was especially so. There was an element of respect and humanity in the fight against Germany because it was a war against fellow Aryans, so the Allies pulled their punches. There was no such mercy extended to Japan, so the atrocities committed against it were far more ruthless and effective, which further illustrates my point. Russia floundered miserably in the earlier phases in large part because it conceived of its war as one against a kindred people; they've since corrected their perception and found an effective butcher in Surovikin. We shall see if they truly understand how to wage total warfare.
Note: the power outages are on the Russian side of the line, too.
Once Russia is victorious, it can worry about rebuilding its annexed territories. Now's not the time.
 
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