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9dashline

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It's not a good thing for America as a whole. Even if they could get rid of Trump for good given enough time another demagogy will arise, and this time he might be an expert at Washington political games and once he gets in he's going to just do the same and use the full might of government machinery to crush the other side.

A few rounds of back and forth of this and the country will be destroyed. This exact situation happened at the end of the Ming Dynasty. Democrats even fit the image of Ming 阉党 because of their whole LGBT thing.
This root cause is really just a failure of systems and institutions... The US likes to brag about how their Constituion and democracy is what makes them great, when really on the upswing you'd have to be an absolute moron to run the country into the ground... but now that the days of EROEI 100 are forever in the rearview mirror and the US has to face full spectrum competition from China, thats when the cracks begin to show when under pressure. These seemingly tiny fractures will likely result in the same fate and outcome as the late USS Thresher
 

Abominable

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Then that might be the destiny of the human race, since all trends point to decreasing fertility as countries industrialize. I guess in a way it is natural selection, since the individual humans become more productive you naturally need less people. Maybe in an ironic twist, countries that fail to industrialize will live on?

Morbid jokes aside. China implemented pretty draconian measures (1 child policy) to control the exploding population. There's a lot of positive arguments that the policy helped propel China to where it is today. Now China needs to reverse the trend in the other way, I don't see why "draconian" policies shouldn't be implemented in some form, if the 1 child policy was introduced before and people's preference back then was to have big families. There are ways to heavily incentivize and change people's thinking. It's like tending the garden, if left naturally there'll be weeds all over the place. With some intervention, the plants will grow up well.
I expect China to be fine as long as the CPC do the right thing. I would tie pro-natalist policies with increased decoupling with the west, a trend we already see.

I was talking about countries like Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and the whole of Europe. If your neo-liberal philosophy means your people breed like pandas, perhaps it was meant for humanity to let you go.

It's also the reason why countries like Iran and Turkey will trend to pro-oriental, Islamic. Any secular reformists will end up having one or zero children, while religious ones will have 5 or 6.
 

9dashline

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Taking a biggest picture view, human life is just code propagation. We are basically dna molecules walking around in a body, and biological molecular nanomachines at scale

Decoupling with the West is a must and imho there is no shortcut or easy way but the sooner the better.

AI can help with family planning... genetic defects will be a thing of the past and its inevitable in the future all newborns will be "enchanced"... imagine every Chinese baby born with the genetic template of a genius and muscular potential to be aesthetically scrulpted... basically the Han race to be a supermen species
 

BoraTas

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More US officials heading to Taiwan in military aircraft today — TVBS
Invading Taiwan started making more and more sense. Because in a few years we will reach a point where China will have to sever relations with most of the West. At least, by invading the place you send the burden of decision to the other party. Taiwan is making itself "the problem" of China. It won't end well for its government officials or the people who are voting for them.
 

ansy1968

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It's not a good thing for America as a whole. Even if they could get rid of Trump for good given enough time another demagogy will arise, and this time he might be an expert at Washington political games and once he gets in he's going to just do the same and use the full might of government machinery to crush the other side.

A few rounds of back and forth of this and the country will be destroyed. This exact situation happened at the end of the Ming Dynasty. Democrats even fit the image of Ming 阉党 because of their whole LGBT thing.
The same thing happen in Modern China that resulted in Cultural Revolution and the Gang of Four, maybe the American needed it too to cleanse the system cause all 3 institutional Pillars of Gov't are corrupted.
 

ansy1968

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Invading Taiwan started making more and more sense. Because in a few years we will reach a point where China will have to sever relations with most of the West. At least, by invading the place you send the burden of decision to the other party. Taiwan is making itself "the problem" of China. It won't end well for its government officials or the people who are voting for them.
Sir do you think the Chinese will invade? until her vulnerabilities has been address then we have to wait until eternity. From my perspective it will take time for China to decouple at most 3 years if the urgency dictate, the inflection point is 2025. That year should be mark as the day China achieved near parity with the US. There is NO illusion among all Chinese the threat they will be facing, the Zero Covid lockdown, the No Food Wastage Campaign and the brownouts are all preparation for that eventuality. In Geopolitical Arena 3 years is enough time for Russia and China to coordinate their policy especially combining the Eurasia Economic Union with that of BRI and establishing a basket of currency to replace the dollar. A Chinese proverb that encapsulate the current situation in Taiwan "Only one who can swallow an insult is a man the one dishing it is a Child"
 

pmc

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End of abundance is because of global peak energy and diminishing EROEI... folks are finally realizing its never gonna get better only worse and worse from here on out...

There is plenty of energy left but western firms are unable to exploit it due to virtue signaling and sanctions. deindustrialization further decrease ability to finish projects on time and budget. I mean countries like Algeria and Libya are next door to France but French not have much to do with there energy increase. on top of that French are looked at contempt.
The sooner they left Mali that Iranian landed.

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BoraTas

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Sir do you think the Chinese will invade? until her vulnerabilities has been address then we have to wait until eternity. From my perspective it will take time for China to decouple at most 3 years if the urgency dictate, the inflection point is 2025. That year should be mark as the day China achieved near parity with the US. There is NO illusion among all Chinese the threat they will be facing, the Zero Covid lockdown, the No Food Wastage Campaign and the brownouts are all preparation for that eventuality. In Geopolitical Arena 3 years is enough time for Russia and China to coordinate their policy especially combining the Eurasia Economic Union with that of BRI and establishing a basket of currency to replace the dollar. A Chinese proverb that encapsulate the current situation in Taiwan "Only one who can swallow an insult is a man the one dishing it is a Child"
Reunification is like having a child for China. China will never be 100% ready for it, just like no people are 100% ready for having a child until they do it. It will always be a decision with huge consequences for China. My thoughts on it

Reasons for waiting
1- Shrinking Taiwanese youth
2- The growing Chinese economy
3- Currently existing industrial dependencies on imports (though how important are they for the Chinese state really?)
4- Increasing Chinese military power in relation to the USA. This is on a totalistic basis.
5- USD reserves of China

Reasons for invading ASAP
1- The legal basis for reunification is disappearing. International organizations and the UN Charter are losing power and Taiwan is becoming a sovereign nation in all but name.
2- Japanese and Taiwanese military power may actually start increasing in relation to China soon. They are quite demilitarized societies. Especially Taiwan is currently a joke. They can easily increase their power relative to China.
3- This one is tied to the second one. Taiwanese military and people may actually get "Ukrainized" by the USA. That means months-long urban battles and total destruction of Taiwan during reunification. (This is a good enough reason on its own)
4- The US military even though is losing ground on a totalistic basis, it is increasing its presence in Asia-Pacific. It is also reorganizing itself for high-end battles. China currently has to deal with only ~10-15% of the USAF. This won't be the case in 2035.
5- Taiwanese identity is becoming stronger. (This is a good enough reason on its own too)

I will be dead honest, if I was the decision maker I'd opt for it being done in 3-4 years
 
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