Ukrainian War Developments

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Stealthflanker

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Given NATO surveillance there. i found it's hard to believe that they would miss that drone. and it's not gonna fly at low altitude as it use turbojet which fuel hungry (thus reduce range).
But maybe it has small RCS, not as small as stealth but small enough to pass through E-3 coverage.
 

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Why there is a war in #Ukraine? Read this 1997 article of the NYTimes like it was written this morning, explaining how #Russia wrongly believed the US.

The Anatomy of a Misunderstanding and false promises over NATO non-expansion.

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When you @TuckerCarlson are an American citizen and have the courage to ask the right questions about the #US using biological laboratories in #Europe.

The reaction against anyone who refuses to be blind about #US doing. Therefore, when you are under attack, you know your voice hurts and many are trying to silence you about #Ukraine #Russian.


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Abominable

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The UNSC meeting is interesting. The Russian allegations are quite mild and could plausibly be true. Americans have been researching pathogens that could have military application, and pose a health risk to the local Ukrainian people. They're not claiming America unleashed COVID-19 on the world like the Americans are accusing China of.

The pro-US countries are calling it disinformation as expected. The one African country so far (Ghana) has said these claims need to be investigated by the relevant authorities, but Russian forces need to withdraw first. I expect the other African countries will say something similar. The Indian delegate didn't seem to listen to anything the Russian said and made a vague ambivalent statement about the war, nothing to do with biological weapons. At least he didn't bring up Indian students again.

It'll be interesting to hear what the Chinese delegate says.

Overall, it's not news to me that America would be researching pathogens for military application. Both Russia and America are doing it. 90% of this will be for defensive purposes (like developing vaccines), but both countries would be interested in offensive capacity, if only to see what the "other side" can do.

I find it strange that America would set up these research facilities in countries as far away as the Ukraine, but I guess that's because of their overuse of private contractors.

Whatever is going on in them, the American government will not want their biolabs to be investigated by the UN under any circumstances, so if Russia or politicians in America keep pushing them on this it'll continue to cast them in a bad light.
 
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tokenanalyst

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Both Ukraine and Russia denied it was one of their own.

If Ukraine launched it, the least they could have done is warn their NATO financiers. Yet, it crashed with complete surprise.

Geometrically, base on the drone's stated range of 1000km, and the fact that it overflew Romania, Hungary and Croatia, it could only have been launched from west Ukraine, which is outside the Russian military presence. However, it appears to have been cruising at 700 kph, significantly below its normal cruising speed of 1000 kph. This might have been done to increase its range.

I think it cannot be completely dismissed that this drone was launched by Russian forces using a captured Ukrainian drone to probe NATO defenses. The fact that only Ukraine operates this model gives them plausible deniability.
I highly doubt that the Russians are that stupid, to launch a drone that will invite a NATO response. Probably was drone that malfunction and change its path in midair. Is an old drone with very old electronics.
 
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