Havoc and Alligator CAS helicopters attacking Ukrainian tanks and artillery.
Ukrainian War Developments
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If anything the opposite is true, people are better able to call out lies sooner.
In WW1 we had propaganda that German soldiers were turning babies into soap that was believed for years after the war ended. Even with the mass saturation of Ukrainian propaganda on all mainstream services, myths like the ghost of Kiev were discredited within a day or two. Some sh*t will stick, like the one with Ukrainians killing tens of thousands of Russian soldiers despite having no air force or cohesive structure, but even that isn't going to hold for long if your own army and country is getting slowly decimated. In the end, the only thing that matters is who wins on the ground.
The more of Ukraine Russia annexes, the more it'll have to pay towards reconstruction. I think how much Russia absorbs will depend on the resistance it encounters once it crosses the Dnieper.
If it gets to the point where there'll be pitched battles with armed civilians for every building, it'll make sense to just level cities Fallujah style and make Americans and Europeans pay for the clean up.
There is much propaganda on both sides. What really matters from the tactical and strategic point of view with regards to deciding the outcome of this war in as to who will get as much of the objectives as it wishes to achieve is the situation on the ground with regards to gains of territory, encirclement of forces, the ability to reinforce forces and to prevent reinforcements, the ability to surround cities and other locations and prevent resupplies.
Quite frankly, there is not much reliable information that is being reported on the Donbass Region outside of Mariupol. We know that Mariupol is surrounded and has been surrounded for a week. As
far as Russia is concerned, within the Donbass, it is very important that it should be able to to highly dominate, surround, and/or if not oust any major Ukrainian military forces there and be capable of preventing their reinforcement at will.
If Russia has presented Ukraine with recognizing the Donbass Region as independent of Ukraine, unless Russia decisively has the upperhand there, to an extent that Ukraine knows that it has very little to no chance of regaining territory, it will not be able to force any major concessions on Ukraine with regards to it.
I think that people should stop this assertion that Russia must takeover the entirety of Ukraine and commit major military forces of the West side of the Dnieper. That is a quagmire. Russia will face major resistance there. The only reason to take Kherson is because it is strategically located at the mouth of the Dnieper River and it provides a means of guarding against any Ukrainian counteract going towards Crimea. I even believe that it was a mistakes to commit the extent of resources that is did towards pressurizing Kiev.
I do not know if the Russians seriously believed that the Ukrainians would quickly surrender Kiev without a very bloody fight. If they did, they were/are utterly deluded and hubristic and obviously learned nothing from the Chechen Wars. Pressurizing and undertaking feints around and close to Kiev however to serve the purpose of keeping the Ukrainians occupied there while the Russians focus their attention on the South and the Southeast - as they should.
An illustration of censorship in Germany.
The content of this video was published on "Welt-Online", a so called liberal newspaper. After two hours it was deleted. I wrote them about it and asked why? No response so far.
Today, on the webside of "FAZ-Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung" the story was taken up by the Ministry of Defence of the US, and denied. It would be a lie of the Russians. Also some "Fact-Checkers" had found no evidence of these labs.
But in contratry, the labs are / were there. The question is, why were these "harmless" information deleted or even the existence thereof denied? Media sometimes lie by not posting information and leaving gaps. The whole picture is never issued.
And yes, it is censorship. First victim in war is the truth. What values is the Western world fighting for?
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Koala
More great tactics from the Russian comedy squad:
More foreign fighters for UA:
3rd Russian Su25 confirmed lost:
More foreign fighters for UA:
3rd Russian Su25 confirmed lost:
True or false we will not know unless an independent investigation is allowed,
These are sick and diabolical research if true and should not be ignored.
As the US has acknowledge existence of these bioagent research and credible evidence are now available, The international community should demand a proper and independent investigation of these biolabs and the US should be transparent and cooperate with these investigation.
There's a distinction between military resistance and civilian resistance. In Iraq and Afghanistan the formal military structures quickly collapsed and surrendered, but civilian/partisan resistance was high and eventually led to the withdrawal of American forces. Even there it didn't appear overnight and took many years of the US occupation to develop.
Before this war started I believed the Ukrainian army would collapse like it did in 2014 whenever Russian soldiers appeared on the field. I was mostly wrong on that, and there has been strong resistance on all fronts except the Kiev offensive. They are being pushed back and taking heavy losses, but they aren't giving up without a fight.
The mainstream opinion is that the Ukrainian civilians will turn into Afghans overnight and fight tooth and nail for every city. We'll have to see, but I don't think that'll happen. So far there has been little evidence of any meaningful civilian resistance in any of the towns Russia has occupied so far. A few non violent protests that look less threatening than a covid protest. So far local mayors and civilian authorities have been ok to work with Russian authorities. That may change as Russia pushes further west, but I doubt it.
They have labs there for sure, i'm not sure why tho.
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