Ukrainian War Developments

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james smith esq

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RUaF lose fighters over Georgia too. I find it funny they are unable to suppress their own system
I’m not sure that it’s inability to suppress as much as outdated, “going in blind”, tactics. Didn’t they also lose at least one Tu-22M3 over Georgia? Whichever the case, it does seem odd. Then again, come to think of it, isn’t this Russia’s first large-scale war in which they’ve tried to use air assets in support of a conventional offensive campaign? Maybe they just haven’t studied the examples of the past several decades, thinking them to be irrelevant?
 

siegecrossbow

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RUaF lose fighters over Georgia too. I find it funny they are unable to suppress their own system

It might actually be harder to suppress your own system since your opponent is familiar with your countermeasures. One of the reasons that R-27 did so poorly during the Ethiopia/Eritrea conflict was because that pilots on both sides were familiar with the performance envelope of the missile. Strap it on a Houthi truck twenty years later and boom, successfully brings down a Saudi F-15.
 

JebKerman

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I’m not sure that it’s inability to suppress as much as outdated, “going in blind”, tactics. Didn’t they also lose at least one Tu-22M3 over Georgia? Whichever the case, it does seem odd. Then again, come to think of it, isn’t this Russia’s first large-scale war in which they’ve tried to use air assets in support of a conventional offensive campaign? Maybe they just haven’t studied the examples of the past several decades, thinking them to be irrelevant?
I remember reading in a magazine (maybe aviation week?) that Russians did terriblely in Georgia, but they still crashed the Georgians anyway.

By that standard they have improved, and is probably prepared for much more losses to win.
 
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