Ukrainian War Developments

[9dashline]

We are inundated with Western propaganda and their controlled social media. Lots of people on here take it at fact value but we really shouldn't. There probably a lot more info on Russian websites but they are either Shadow banned or blocked.

This is like saying why china doesn't fight a better social media way to debunk Xinjiang claims. Western media is quite good at switching attention and burying the facts.

This is what I feel too. I posted it a couple days ago. Their plan is not to dominate but to weed out the fighters. We may blame them for being slow but none of us know their timeline and we are just blaming their incompetence based on Western social media which is very pro Ukraine. We will have to see the final result before passing judgement.


This is why his strategic nuclear arsenal is now on alert. He likely anticipated this. Those ICBM moving to Moscow may be more than just a parade.

Say what your want about Putin but I have found him to be ahead of the curve on a lot of stuff. If he did not under Ukraine and just recognized the separatist part, Ukraine would not stop to reunite those regions with war. Given the fact that sections are coming down even with recognizing those separatist regions, then hearing zelenaky take about nuclear weapons, he decided to strick now. Cause 5-10 years form the road, if Ukraine is in NATO, and they attack the separatist regions, then Russia will have conflict with NATO and will be in an even worse position. He basically said this in he's speech. I don't blame this strategic decision. Otherwise he would have doomed Russia 5-10 years down the road.

China needs to take this lesson to heart, after the wind mills are finished China needs to state in no uncertain terms that any US involvement in the TW reunification will mean MAD

 

[gelgoog]

looks like T-72 won't be surprised anymore if they are filming their own tanks.

No, it is definitively a Russian T-72B3M. Since it is intact I assume it broke down.

 

[panzerfeist1]

They have claimed they shot down 4 in total all full of vdv paratroopers. Ghost of Kiev false. Snake island 13 dead. False they all surrendered and are alive.

Several fakes of captured Russian soldiers.

Several fakes of Ukraine women crying about men leaving to fight were from Eastern Ukraine.

Claims of 5000 Russian troops dead fake.

Claims of of Russian tank running over civil car was actually a Ukraine strela 10.

Several claims of them shooting down Russian planes were also false.

This propaganda we have never seen before honestly.

Not even the soviets lies this hard to be quite frank.

 

[KYli]

The reality is before Zelensky, China and Ukraine have a good working relationship. Even under Poronshenko, considered by a lot to be a western puppet, was the one who signed BRI agreement.

Even with the Xinjiang UN condemnation and Motor Sich fiascos, there was some thaw as the UN condemnation was later withdrawn.

All these cellphone videos may have very well been taken by a Xiaomi and uploaded onto a Huawei powered network. Both are the #1 in their segment of the Ukrainian market.

Also, considering their outdated Soviet era industrial complexes, refurbishment with Chinese equipment would be far more affordable for companies than German and Japanese machinery.

Considering all of this, there is no surprise that China is not cheerleading this invasion.

Not entirely true, after Motor Sich, China didn't donate vaccines to Ukraine. And when Ukraine couldn't obtain vaccines from the West, China didn't expedite the shipment of vaccines like it did to other countries such as Serbia and Hungary. It all points to China isn't so happy about Motor Sich fiasco. Don't take China's relationship for granted.

 

[Tootensky]

If anything seems like the lead up to WW1. Countries are becoming overly nationalistic and putting their security interests to the detriment of others.

More like Crimean War imho.

 

[Sardaukar20]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1498038593373224961

Massive explosion in Cherkasy. According to the Russian media in Telegram. It was an Iskander missile hitting a Ukrainian ammunition depot there.

 

[Phead128]

Considering all of this, there is no surprise that China is not cheerleading this invasion.

Does Russia openly support China's territorial claims or construction of artificial islands in South China Sea?

Why would anyone cheerlead a conflict so far away and not important to their core interest? Russia didn't openly support SCS artificial islands, and China will not openly support invasion of Ukraine, that is only fair and reasonable. China owes Russia nothing except positive neutrality and China expects the same in return for SCS.

 

[Abominable]

Wouldnt that just be waste of money, pilots and resources?.

I mean, it takes a long time to train pilots in modern aircrafts with enough proficiency to not crash while taking off, let alone to achieve a minimun of combat effectiveness to not get blown up as soon as a radar picks them up.

This is Taiwan buying Abrams level of stupid

I suspect it's cover to let western pilots fly in Ukraine. There's no way a Ukrainian pilot who has only flown 70s era MiGs can suddenly operate a western jet.

 

[anzha]

Wouldnt that just be waste of money, pilots and resources?.

That's an interesting question.

I mean, it takes a long time to train pilots in modern aircrafts with enough proficiency to not crash while taking off, let alone to achieve a minimun of combat effectiveness to not get blown up as soon as a radar picks them up.

If the Ukrainians have pilots more than aircraft now, this could work.

If the West will provide pilots under the International Legion, that's another option.

This is Taiwan buying Abrams level of stupid

Perhaps. Perhaps not. This could be really bad actually for Russia if the west provides enough and there are sufficient pilots.

 

[Aegis21]

What happened to the 2 IL76 Ukraine said they shot down?