Ukrainian War Developments

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Aegis21

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TASS probably got hacked. Actual recorded Russian losses are nowhere near that number.
Where in the TASS article did it say that "Putin himself is disappointed"?

I used google translation, here is the part that mentioned Putin.

‎Russian President Vladimir Putin on February 24 announced a special military operation in Ukraine in response to the appeal of the leaders of the Republics of Donbass for help. He stressed that Moscow's plans do not include the occupation of Ukrainian territories, the goal is the demilitarization and denazification of the country. As stated in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, the Russian military does not strike at cities, but disables only military infrastructure, so nothing threatens the civilian population.‎
No, I was talking about the tweet. Others have said that TASS may have been hacked.
 

gelgoog

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ADCs are not difficult technology. Hardware DSP is not either.
Russia has several companies which make DSPs. They have had them for at least two decades.

Ukrainian Government: The An-225 Mriya, World’s Heaviest Aircraft, Has Been Destroyed
It was intact when the Russian paratroopers landed. I saw in the videos. But there is this report.
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"MOSCOW, February 27. /TASS/. The Ukrainian army has begun to use outlawed phosphorus munitions in Kiev’s suburbs near the Gostomel airdrome, currently controlled by the Russian army, Russian Defense Ministry spokesman Igor Konashenkov told the media on Sunday.
"Unable to stop the offensive of the Russian forces, the Ukrainian army has begun to use phosphorus munitions on a massive scale near the Gostomel airdrome in Kiev’s suburbs. They fire 122-millimeter shells with D-30 howitzers and missiles for BM-21 Grad multiple launchers of Soviet manufacture," Konashenkov said.
"The use of such munitions is prohibited under the third protocol of the 1980 UN Convention on Certain Conventional Weapons," Konashenkov said."


That is the airport where the An-225 is I think.

Predictable. Russia will most likely achieve a pyrrhic victory. One of the side effects of this poorer than expected performance is it will psychologically boost both the Washington elites and regular Americans to physically take on China on the Taiwan issue even more. They will falsely equal the Chinese military doctrine, training, equipment as copies of Russia and can't possibly win in a ambitious Taiwan campaign, and a chance to halt the "rebellion" against the current world order once and for all.
It might be a "Pyrrhic victory" but not in the military effectiveness sense I think. They seem to be moving quick thus far.

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TASS is reporting that the numbers of tanks killed matches what the Ukrainians say. The deaths of Russian soldiers also match with the Ukrainian numbers more or less.
I read the translated article using Yandex translate. It doesn't speak of Russian losses, only Ukrainian ones.

TASS just reported the deaths and equipment lost. 4300 Russians. 146 tanks. Seems really close to what the Ukrainian MoD was stating.
No. They made a vague statement without any numbers.
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FriedButter

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Exactly. In the years since the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war. Russian media have been constantly boasting about measures to deal with the famous TB-2 Bayraktars. They have said that they have: Pantsirs, Anti-drone radars, Tunguskas, and AAM-armed Orion drones. They have demonstrated these things in their testing range. Well, where are they now?

Have they even been deployed at all? Like really, almost all the destroyed equipment so far has been older vehicles and not the latest.

To quote from another forum…

2. But is there some credence in arguments that say that these are not all the best troops Russia has available? One analyst on the Duran (I know they're biased) made the argument that a lot of the units are green, and not the battle hardened veterans and other highly experienced troops. The above mentioned twitterer also hinted at this, only he suggested there where inexperienced companies interspersed into larger units. One more thing that makes me suspect there's credence in this argument is the battle damage reports that @Feanor so kindly keeps us updated with. Those show a lot of destroyed T-72's, and BMP2's, some T-80's and in @Feanor 's latest post I saw a destroyed BMP-3. But there doesn't seem to be a whole lot of very new, or top of the line equipment among the wreckage I've seen so far. The lack of air coverage is another indicator of coarse.

So what does this mean? I could be totally wrong and I'm not looking close enough. But are the Russians not sending in their best units just yet? Or do they just don't have enough T-80's, T-90's and BMP-3's to equip these units? Another explanation could be that they are using this conflict to "bloody" their less experienced troops? That could lend credence to the argument that they are encountering more resistance than they where expecting, and they bit of more than their "green" troops could chew? But then again, wouldn't you send in your best troops in the initial assault?
 

Kich

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I have observed countries who have used Russian military equipment and doctrine in conflicts. All of them have major issues with regards to air combat. Syria vs Israel, Armenia vs Azerbaijan, and India vs Pakistan. Fortunately China have been observant and have been adopting NATO war fighting concepts. For example, a greater emphasis on BVR combat than WVR for newer PLAAF aircrafts.
Yes, China is on the right path in terms of air doctrine. Drones, EW jets, surveillances, AWACS and Air refueling, PL-15, PL-21.

When this is over, Russia should really seek their assistance, but they won't because of pride.
 

solarz

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really? have you seen comments about Ukrainian women on THIS forum?

And what made you think this is made up by 1450? this channel is by 中天, Taiwan's only pro-unification channel.

Besides commenting on Ukrainian women, some members of this forum has taken a clear Russian side. That is not PRC's position!!! How would Ukrainian think about China and Chinese people if/when they see these pro-Russian comments? To me taking either side is simply wrong in the face of loss of lives.

So it's illegal to take a pro-Russian position now? We're only allowed to take pro-Ukrainian position?

Have you gone off the deep end?
 

Abominable

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Exactly. In the years since the 2020 Nagorno-Karabakh war. Russian media have been constantly boasting about measures to deal with the famous TB-2 Bayraktars. They have said that they have: Pantsirs, Anti-drone radars, Tunguskas, and AAM-armed Orion drones. They have demonstrated these things in their testing range. Well, where are they now?

How did Russia destroyed those Ukrainian air bases? I think they did a terrible job. Instead of just popping some buildings. They should have been scattering cluster munitions onto the runways. That's what NATO would have done. They should have put those airbases out of commission for weeks, not just 3 days.

When Russia intervened in Syria, they flooded the social media and news channels with countless UAV videos showing the targeting and destruction of enemy forces. Now, in the most important war that Russia is fighting in 20 years, we have seen nothing of such sort. Everything we see from the Russian side are either announcements, or videos taken on the ground by journalists or spectators. Its like as if Russia is trying to lose the information war. This better be worth the price Russians are paying with blood for each emboldened Ukrainian killing more Russians.

To be fair, the Russians have achieve near air superiority, albeit a porous one. Ukrainian helicopters and jets have largely been silenced. We don't hear about them anymore. But the Bayraktars are still out there, scouting and killing Russian troops. Why haven't the Russians seriously dealt with them? They have claimed to have the solutions. Its quite baffling.

I have observed countries who have used Russian military equipment and doctrine in conflicts. All of them have major issues with regards to air combat. Syria vs Israel, Armenia vs Azerbaijan, and India vs Pakistan. Fortunately China have been observant and have been adopting NATO war fighting concepts. For example, a greater emphasis on BVR combat than WVR for newer PLAAF aircrafts.

Ukraine probably might have a few dozen Bayraktars at the start of this war. With a number of them being destroyed on the ground and in the air, it is likely that their stocks would be dwindling soon. Russia destroying fuel and ammunition depots should accelerate their exit from this war. Its only a matter of time before the Bayraktars too would be silenced.
This is the first time a modern military has had to deal with drones. We're learning how drone warfare plays out.

I agree suppression of Ukrainian airfields has been poor. Then again, you don't need much airstrip to operate a drones.

Two videos have been released, I suspect both came from today or yesterday. One came from the Zhytomyr region. Today it was hit by ballistic missiles, and it is the region I suspect we've seen Russian fight jets operating today according to a video.

There are still questions, like why the TB2s have been absent from action until now. Russian vehicles were driving in from Belarus single file and reached Kiev virtually unopposed, that could have been a Turkey shoot if any drones were operating.

 
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