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ansy1968

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It'll be interesting to see what happens with Turkey in the coming world war. Erdogan has acted against western interests in the middle east. But then sometimes he's a NATO fanatic.

Turkey needs to pick a side, either Asia or Europe. You can't be both.
@Abominable bro that what makes a great statesman, looking for your country interest first. Playing both side is and juggle with the big boys. Bro PRES Edrogan knows its country importance in the region, its a strategic real estate and a good bargaining tool, the only problem is his bombastic style and lack of political finesse but he will learned it on the job as the time goes by. Now the Biden administration with Bolton stealthily want to change the Status Quo and plan a regime change. If they do implement it, they will lost Turkey forever.

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Red Moon

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I didn't read the article because I really don't care what NYT has to say about China.

I just want to say that welfare of not the solution to social inequality. On the contrary, welfare perpetuates inequality.

Under Xi Jinping, China has tackled and is still tackling three major issues, all of which were caused by the proliferation of Capitalism in the past 30 years.

First, corruption. This is Xi's first and most successful campaign to date, and paves the way for China to tackle the other two issues.

Second is environmental degradation. Tackling this issue means tightening up environmental regulations, which requires officials who are resistant to corruption. This is the first step toward reducing social inequality by giving back to people their health.

The third issue is social inequality. China's first success is the elimination of absolute poverty. We are also seeing stronger oversight of large Chinese corporations as demonstrated by Ant Financial and Didi. We will continue to see a series of such measures designed to curb the power of Chinese capitalists and protect the interests of the people.

In many ways, the curbing of capitalist influences in China would not have been possible without the hostility of the US. This hostility has two effects: first, it severely restricted business opportunities of Chinese corporations in the West, thereby making them much more reliant on the good will of the domestic market. Second, it created a sense of common purpose among the Chinese populace and any perceived attack on or betrayal of Chinese national interests are now seen as intolerable. Chinese consumers can and will exercise collective power to punish businesses that attempt to profit at the expense of the nation.
Yet, the Communist Party promises that the private sector in not some temporary phenomenon, but is here to stay. This much is constantly repeated, and was explained in documents published around the time of the last Congress as "mobilizing the social wisdom". My take on this is that the combination of private capitalists and a market economy seems better at developing consumer products in particular, and this is absolutely necessary in order to compete globally, both economically and politically.

Another 'problem' is that some people in key areas (semiconductors, AI, for example) are getting very high salaries, and at least SMIC is giving out stock options. Given today's conditions, I think there's no choice.

So the government is fighting capitalist influences... but also promoting them in some ways. You are probably right that the conflict with the US strengthens the CPC's hand, as does the relative mass of China in the world today.

Ultimately, I think the dream of many capitalists is to become renteers, so that their offspring will have absolute security without a struggle. In China, I think many of them feel in their bones that this cannot be fully secured unless they emigrate. But the financial and political instability in the West also makes them think twice.
 

Abominable

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@Abominable bro that what makes a great statesman, looking for your country interest first. Playing both side is and juggle with the big boys. Bro PRES Edrogan knows its country importance in the region, its a strategic real estate and a good bargaining tool, the only problem is his bombastic style and lack of political finesse but he will learned it on the job as the time goes by. Now the Biden administration with Bolton stealthily want to change the Status Quo and plan a regime change. If they do implement it, they will lost Turkey forever.

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There's a difference between looking out for your own country and being a western stooge. When it comes to Russia Erdogan seems to forget everything more pro NATO than most western members.
 

ansy1968

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There's a difference between looking out for your own country and being a western stooge. When it comes to Russia Erdogan seems to forget everything more pro NATO than most western members.
@Abominable Yup regarding Russia, Edrogan is Putin kryptonite...lol. It only shows Edrogan knows how to play the geopolitics game, look at what he did to Ursula von der Leyen, letting her seat in a couch like a dog and getting away with it. What I'm afraid of with this petty victories it may swell Edrogan ego and may over reach its resources and political gain. He need to focus on its economic development and not being part of EU gave him room to maneuver. He need to delegate more to competent people cause Turkey had the making of a great regional power alongside with Iran. The US, EU , the Chinese and the Russian knew that and all of them are courting Turkey. All she had to do is maintain the status quo and gain the benefits, why allied yourself with one bloc and miss the benefit of the other, that is what an independent foreign policy is all about which all sovereign state aspired to.
 
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8 killed in Pakistan including 4 Chinese engineers.

This is how India operates. They cant face directly and rely on proxies to carry out terror attacks on Chinese interests. Thats why China should continue to hammer them in Ladakh and also provide support to rebel groups in Kashmir, North East.
 
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