Coronavirus 2019-2020 thread (no unsubstantiated rumours!)

plawolf

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Did I say anywhere that they are unsuitable? I said these measures are unsustainable in the long run.

It's not just China. Tourism is basically dead all over the world. Everywhere else outside of China, the economy has ground to a halt.

In China, there's now a 4 week quarantine. Vast amounts of resources are devoted to rapid response in the event of a localized outbreak. Cities/regions are still being blocked off whenever a new case is discovered.
Sorry I meant unsustainable, autocorrect strikes again.

First off, none of what you mentioned is unsustainable. China can sustain its current measures more or less forever.

Also, I would not get too hung up on the long quarantine, the key to China’s success isn’t just boarder control, but it’s entire integrated model, especially its detection, track, trace and isolate process.

Boarder control can never be 100%, so you need reliable and solid back ups for not if, but when they fail. China is the only one who bothered to prepare for their boarder control to fail, which is why it is literally last man standing when all the other ‘model’ counties and special administrative regions the west have praise have all fallen short when they were relying almost exclusively on geographical advantages and boarder controls to do all the work with zero viable plan B.

As for tourism, well its only international tourism that is deal. Domestic Chinese tourism is booming. But to be honest, as much as I enjoy travelling personally, from an environmental, and species wellbeing and survival stand point, global tourism going belly up is no bad thing!
 

SimaQian

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DOCUMENTS: U.S. Gov't Sent "mRNA Coronavirus Vaccine Candidates" to University Researchers WEEKS BEFORE "COVID" Outbreak in China! How did they know . . . Unless they caused it?​


DOCUMENTS: U.S. Gov't Sent mRNA Coronavirus Vaccine Candidates to University Researchers WEEKS BEFORE COVID Outbreak in China!  How did they know . . . Unless they caused it?

Confidential documents have surfaced in a Confidentiality Agreement between the U.S. National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and Moderna showing they transferred "potential coronavirus vaccine candidates" to the University of North Carolina, on December 12, 2019
. . . which was nineteen (19) days BEFORE the outbreak of novel coronavirus in China!
How could they know they would need a Coronavirus Vaccine BEFORE the outbreak, unless they had knowledge the outbreak was going to happen?
This begs the question: Did they CAUSE the outbreak?
Above is the header portion of Page 105 of the Confidentiality Agreement. It deals with the actual physical transfer of "mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates" being sent to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
It is signed on December 12 by Ralph Baric, PhD, at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, who is listed as the "Recipient" of the mRNA Coronavirus Vaccine candidates, Image below:

It is also signed by Jacqueline Quay, Director of Licensing and Innovation Support at that same University, with the signature dated December 16, 2019. Image below:


On behalf of the PROVIDER of the mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates, the same agreement is signed by Barney Graham MD PhD, who is shown as an "Investigator" with the NIAID (National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases) whose signature is not dated, image below:

Also on behalf of the PROVIDER is the electronic stamp signature of Amy F. Petrik, Technology Transfer Specialist, NIAID and that electronic signature bears an electronic time/date stamp showing her approval on 2019.12.12 at 08:05:02 (8:05 AM) and then shows "-0500" which is a reference to how many hours different from GMT time "-0500" minus five hours GMT, which corresponds to the US east coast . . . North Carolina.
Finally, the document is also signed by Sunny Himansu PhD who is shown as the Moderna Investigator. Image below:

and all of it was approved by Shaun Ryan, who is listed as Moderna's Deputy General Counsel (Lawyer), image below:

Here is a scanned image of the actual signature page showing the signatures, dates and times:
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All of these signatures took place BEFORE any mention of a novel coronavirus came from China. All of the individuals who signed, knew they were signing to receive specimens to be researched as "mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates."
How would any of these people have known that an mRNA Vaccine for a coronavirus would be needed, if word had not yet come out - ANYWHERE - about some new coronavirus outbreak in China? Such word did not come out until December 31.
Below is a screen shot from the World Health Organization web site showing the Time Line for the novel coronavirus outbreak starting in Wuhan China. The WHO web site clearly shows the WHO first found out about a new "viral pneumonia" in Wuhan on December 31:
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Some people are wondering if these people knew on December 12 that a new mRNA Coronavirus vaccine would be needed because they were the ones who CAUSED the outbreak?
Maybe it's time for law enforcement to start looking into this factual evidence?
Maybe they should start with the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases which just so happens to be run by . . . Dr. Anthony Fauci.
 

plawolf

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DOCUMENTS: U.S. Gov't Sent "mRNA Coronavirus Vaccine Candidates" to University Researchers WEEKS BEFORE "COVID" Outbreak in China! How did they know . . . Unless they caused it?​


DOCUMENTS: U.S. Gov't Sent mRNA Coronavirus Vaccine Candidates to University Researchers WEEKS BEFORE COVID Outbreak in China!  How did they know . . . Unless they caused it?'t Sent mRNA Coronavirus Vaccine Candidates to University Researchers WEEKS BEFORE COVID Outbreak in China!  How did they know . . . Unless they caused it?

Confidential documents have surfaced in a Confidentiality Agreement between the U.S. National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and Moderna showing they transferred "potential coronavirus vaccine candidates" to the University of North Carolina, on December 12, 2019
. . . which was nineteen (19) days BEFORE the outbreak of novel coronavirus in China!
How could they know they would need a Coronavirus Vaccine BEFORE the outbreak, unless they had knowledge the outbreak was going to happen?
This begs the question: Did they CAUSE the outbreak?
Above is the header portion of Page 105 of the Confidentiality Agreement. It deals with the actual physical transfer of "mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates" being sent to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
It is signed on December 12 by Ralph Baric, PhD, at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, who is listed as the "Recipient" of the mRNA Coronavirus Vaccine candidates, Image below:

It is also signed by Jacqueline Quay, Director of Licensing and Innovation Support at that same University, with the signature dated December 16, 2019. Image below:


On behalf of the PROVIDER of the mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates, the same agreement is signed by Barney Graham MD PhD, who is shown as an "Investigator" with the NIAID (National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases) whose signature is not dated, image below:

Also on behalf of the PROVIDER is the electronic stamp signature of Amy F. Petrik, Technology Transfer Specialist, NIAID and that electronic signature bears an electronic time/date stamp showing her approval on 2019.12.12 at 08:05:02 (8:05 AM) and then shows "-0500" which is a reference to how many hours different from GMT time "-0500" minus five hours GMT, which corresponds to the US east coast . . . North Carolina.
Finally, the document is also signed by Sunny Himansu PhD who is shown as the Moderna Investigator. Image below:

and all of it was approved by Shaun Ryan, who is listed as Moderna's Deputy General Counsel (Lawyer), image below:

Here is a scanned image of the actual signature page showing the signatures, dates and times:
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All of these signatures took place BEFORE any mention of a novel coronavirus came from China. All of the individuals who signed, knew they were signing to receive specimens to be researched as "mRNA coronavirus vaccine candidates."
How would any of these people have known that an mRNA Vaccine for a coronavirus would be needed, if word had not yet come out - ANYWHERE - about some new coronavirus outbreak in China? Such word did not come out until December 31.
Below is a screen shot from the World Health Organization web site showing the Time Line for the novel coronavirus outbreak starting in Wuhan China. The WHO web site clearly shows the WHO first found out about a new "viral pneumonia" in Wuhan on December 31:
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Here is a
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to the exact web page on the World Health Organization web site from which this info was obtained.
Some people are wondering if these people knew on December 12 that a new mRNA Coronavirus vaccine would be needed because they were the ones who CAUSED the outbreak?
Maybe it's time for law enforcement to start looking into this factual evidence?
Maybe they should start with the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases which just so happens to be run by . . . Dr. Anthony Fauci.
Would be a smoking gun if true, which is why I doubt it as American officials are not that stupid.

The site is also not helping its case by failing to upload the entire document, as what it has put up are just a few pages that could be entirely unrelated.

I tried searching reference numbers on the signature pages and couldn’t find the full report. Anyone else has better google-fu and/or access to the relevant secure libraries to look up such things?
 

SimaQian

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You are right unless there is a whole document uploaded. And also it did not mention how the document was obtained.
 
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robi

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Would be a smoking gun if true, which is why I doubt it as American officials are not that stupid.

The site is also not helping its case by failing to upload the entire document, as what it has put up are just a few pages that could be entirely unrelated.

I tried searching reference numbers on the signature pages and couldn’t find the full report. Anyone else has better google-fu and/or access to the relevant secure libraries to look up such things?
Did someone say Americans are not that stupid hahaha , i just watched a youtube video 75% of Americans think Australia is in Europe !!!!
 

SimaQian

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Would be a smoking gun if true, which is why I doubt it as American officials are not that stupid.

The site is also not helping its case by failing to upload the entire document, as what it has put up are just a few pages that could be entirely unrelated.

I tried searching reference numbers on the signature pages and couldn’t find the full report. Anyone else has better google-fu and/or access to the relevant secure libraries to look up such things?

Apparently the document source came from this, in page 105. But not the whole content. It seems this source is a collection of documents. Im still reading all. But its just too lawyerly docs.

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Would be a smoking gun if true, which is why I doubt it as American officials are not that stupid.

The site is also not helping its case by failing to upload the entire document, as what it has put up are just a few pages that could be entirely unrelated.

I tried searching reference numbers on the signature pages and couldn’t find the full report. Anyone else has better google-fu and/or access to the relevant secure libraries to look up such things?

I beg to differ. We are talking about officials under Trump administration and we know that those folks are not the brightest. They have done some very STUPID things.


I was also very suspicious about the Trump administration early on during the Pandemic. The Trump administration was alluding that they have test kit to identify Covid and are well prepared if and when COVID should reach the US. I thought that was strange as COVID was still new and not well understood. It turn out that their test kit was faulty and the rest is history.
 
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