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[ansy1968]

Why unexpected. Have you not noticed that China's periphery is getting increasingly unstable? I wonder why...

No worries though, in 5 years China periphery will be much worse. Thats what happens when you are "muh non-intervention" and you are against a "muh more intervention brr" opponent. You take the high road but the low road guy with no morals will trample all over you.

Its like having a virgin Mary against a bunch of thieves with knives and guns. Lets see how long will their "non-intervention" policy save them...

@voyager1 bro lets take a look,

Korea peninsula situation peaceful, Brother Kim maybe crazy but I'm certain he can hold the nation together. His main focus is staying in power.

SCS all participant is okay with the current status quo and had become a Chinese lake (advantage China)

Vietnam and China had a thriving business on the border.

India is in covid ,economic and social problem and the Himalaya mountain range is a barrier so no problem regarding any ambitious intrusion by India.

Russia and China understanding that will take care any problem associated in the former Soviet Republic and that may include Afghanistan with the inclusion of Pakistan and Iran.

China have never had such an ideal geopolitical position until now since its birth in 1949. With the Understanding with Russia, Iran, Pakistan and the former Soviet Republic it had provided herself with a huge strategic depth. And also how she manage herself diplomatically and economically, it had made the US containment strategy useless. Amplifying Beijing hard and soft power with strong leadership under XI.

Now vis-a-vis the US, you see in her southern bounder a refugee problem of huge proportion. An internal and economic problem that is shimmering above the surface. The US had undergo many trials before but never in her history that she is facing multiple problems all at once , usually when facing such catastrophe an American statesman will emerged instead they elected a senile president with a dementia lets pray uncle Joe can serve his full terms in office or else GOD SAVE AMERICA.

 

[plawolf]

No respect for China by Australia anymore. If China decides that it will neglect is military then Australia is totally right on slapping China left and right.

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Its coming, getting closer to full ban from Xinjiang..


Its coming...


Obviously no respect. Let China use its "Economy" which has focused so much in contract to its neglected military investments (gdp spending ratio)

We all know that they will ban all Xinjiang products. But "Muh Economy" and "Nobody can resist the temptation of our Huge Economy".. These people are going to have a rude awakening after Australia and the West bans all these products haha

It’s just worthless face saving PR BS.

And it would be quite a stupid overreaction to think to use military force to settle trade disputes. That’s the kind of imperialist gunboat diplomacy that China objects to the most!

Australia can impose trade restrictions on Chinese trade, China will response with more trade restrictions of its own. But there is a limit to that since if you already got zero trade, you can’t really go much further. That is why I said this is worthless face saving PR BS from the Australians, there is already effectively no trade, so their new restrictions will mean very little. Same with Chinese counter sanctions. Both are basically just beating dead horses at this point.

 

[Kaeshmiri]

No respect for China by Australia anymore. If China decides that it will neglect is military then Australia is totally right on slapping China left and right.

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Its coming, getting closer to full ban from Xinjiang..


Its coming...


Obviously no respect. Let China use its "Economy" which has focused so much in contract to its neglected military investments (gdp spending ratio)

We all know that they will ban all Xinjiang products. But "Muh Economy" and "Nobody can resist the temptation of our Huge Economy".. These people are going to have a rude awakening after Australia and the West bans all these products haha

What do you mean when u talk about increasing Military spending? You want China to invade Australia? Sink its Ships? Launch Missiles towards Sydney or what?
You think Countries will suddenly start "respecting" China if it starts acting belligerent and bully its neighbors? You're mistaken. You want China to behave like NK and start threatening everyone?
If China had planners who focused more on Military then today China would be like India . An overpopulated piss-poor nation with nothing to offer to the world.

 

[Dolcevita]

Anyone can give a primer on the Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan conflict?

Not surprising to me. Look at a map and see how convoluted the borders are. They borders are being demarcated in middle of towns. The bigger question is why and how the border came about.

 

[solarz]

What do you mean when u talk about increasing Military spending? You want China to invade Australia? Sink its Ships? Launch Missiles towards Sydney or what?
You think Countries will suddenly start "respecting" China if it starts acting belligerent and bully its neighbors? You're mistaken. You want China to behave like NK and start threatening everyone?
If China had planners who focused more on Military then today China would be like India . An overpopulated piss-poor nation with nothing to offer to the world.

I don't think that dude is even Chinese. He doesn't care about what happens to China, that's why he's always posting idiotic stuff like that.

 

[manqiangrexue]

No respect for China by Australia anymore. If China decides that it will neglect is military then Australia is totally right on slapping China left and right.

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Its coming, getting closer to full ban from Xinjiang..


Its coming...


Obviously no respect. Let China use its "Economy" which has focused so much in contract to its neglected military investments (gdp spending ratio)

We all know that they will ban all Xinjiang products. But "Muh Economy" and "Nobody can resist the temptation of our Huge Economy".. These people are going to have a rude awakening after Australia and the West bans all these products haha

Reread points# 1 and 2:

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Can someone explain why the EU is so bipolar on China? https://www.politico.eu/article/eu-china-biden-economy-climate-europe/ OK, "authoritanian shift" is usually a dog-whistle for another real reason Guys I think I found the real reason... Lmao does the EU think that China will have its...

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Selective blindness isn't a debate strategy. And also, to avoid looking extremely ignorant again regarding China's "neglect" of its military, go look up home many of what ships China commissioned last weekend.

 

[voyager1]

go look up home many of what ships China commissioned last weekend.

I said neglected military investments as per spending to gdp ratio which is laughably low for a country such as China.
Their 1.3%(official?) to 1.9%(hyped MIC US think tanks) gdp military spending is ridiculous.

Even with all these ships commisioned, China is nowhere ready to start contesting the US outside of its own waters.

This is a big weakness which is now repeatedly exploited by various countries

 

[manqiangrexue]

I said neglected military investments as per spending to gdp ratio which is laughably low for a country such as China.
Their 1.3%(official?) to 1.9%(hyped MIC US think tanks) gdp military spending is ridiculous.

You are looking at the wrong numbers. Spending more isn't better; getting more is better. China's military is expanding at the fastest rate on the planet while spending less; the goal is to sustainably build a military that can challenge and eventually overtake the US. It is not to spend a certain percentage of your GDP. The budget is what was determined by the CCP through needs and ability to intelligently spend. The higher your military spending, the less you have to develop your economy with. The less you have to develop your economy with the less tomorrow's economy will be able to sustain a military build-up. Reread point 2 in the cited link of the response you quoted.

Even with all these ships commisioned, China is nowhere ready to start contesting the US outside of its own waters.

Because China has been building modern elite warships for less than 10 years while the US has been building the world's cutting edge military vessels since WWII. What you want amounts to wartime surge-building which, with a nation improving its tech at China's pace, will lead to having too many obsolete ships with less resources for new and improved designs. Reread point 2's supplementary point in the cited link of the response you quoted.

Selective blindness isn't a debate strategy.

This is a big weakness which is now repeatedly exploited by various countries

Typically, people don't consider it as a weakness to simply not be the most powerful entity in the world (yet). I don't know if you're trying to repeat your childishly ridiculous claim that having a powerful military means that other countries won't dare cancel commercial contracts with you or if you're trying to say that other countries/territories will fall inline politically once you are the most powerful. The former is obviously wrong and the latter is pointless because China has simply not reached a point where it can just overtake the US militarily and to do so sustainably requires building the base foundation in economics and technology before translating into military rather than blitz military spending like the USSR or North Korea.

 

[plawolf]

I said neglected military investments as per spending to gdp ratio which is laughably low for a country such as China.
Their 1.3%(official?) to 1.9%(hyped MIC US think tanks) gdp military spending is ridiculous.

Even with all these ships commisioned, China is nowhere ready to start contesting the US outside of its own waters.

This is a big weakness which is now repeatedly exploited by various countries

The Soviets were spending nearly 20% of their GDP at the height of the Cold War while the US was spending less than 10%, who was better off again?

Before you envy American military spending, maybe you will want to see how much they are also spending on just interest repayments on their national debt. Which excessive military spending is a significant contributor for.

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But most fundamentally, you are arguing to use military force where it is entirely not appropriate or suited for.

Oh wow, somebody doesn’t like us, let’s send in the troops! That will for sure make them love us!

 

[voyager1]

Typically, people don't consider it as a weakness to simply not be the most powerful entity in the world (yet).

Yikes. Thats only true for US vassal countries man.

If you are actively contesting the US for a new world order then you are absolutely at weakness if you are not powerful. China is not Germany who doesn't care about the military lol.

And who said about 20% military spending, stop putting words on my mouth(not directed at you, to the other poster). If China's spending is at ~1.3% of gdp then China can increase that to 2% or even 2.2% or 2.3%. Their current spending is criminally low

And no need to spend all this money on procurement ("muh spend on obsolete equipment"). You can build shipyards, aircraft production facilities, increase R&D on various programs, more unmanned equipment development, increase spending to military-linked universities etc. There is a lot of stuff to spend for the military