China Flanker Thread III (land based, exclude J-15)

[manqiangrexue]

A fully loaded Flanker can retain a big deal of agility, it was possible with early Flanker variants so it should be fairly trivial for more modern, lighter variants with more power available

I think I remember that more impressively, someone had once questioned the Flanker's maneuverability under load and the Sukhoi President ordered a Flanker to be loaded assymetrically with a heavy loadout on one wing and nothing on the other and it still preformed beautifully, without visible difference or strain from the clean configuration.

 

[Deino]

Interesting photo of a J-16 – serial number 78235, assigned to the 172nd Air Brigade of PLAAF Cangzhou Flight Training Base – with a Russian Kh-29T.

(Via top81)

 

[Tomboy]

Good view of Taihang II engines

 

[siegecrossbow]

Female J-16 pilot.

 

[Franklin]

Why does China have as many if not more heavy fighters than America (global commitments) and Russia (larger territory) combined.

 

[Gloire_bb]

Why does China have as many if not more heavy fighters than America (global commitments) and Russia (larger territory) combined.

With US - many reasons. Partially - requirements of the theater (Pacific/naval), partially lack of aerial refueling fleet, partially availability of particularly liked model (flanker), partially - lack of general expeditionary optimization.

T-10s and J-20s were a better fit for the specific historical moment, and there was only one available light type(J-10A/B/C), which was built in a somewhat different China, and as such closes only it's specific role, for which there's more than enough of them.
This moment changes, of course, now the proportion of lighter aircraft will grow through J-35 and especially LWs.

With Russia, it's more straightforward - China has x10 the economy(or x6 PPP). Russia, despite it's size, needs smaller more affordable fighters to keep up numbers - but it just doesn't have them. It results in a rather small fleet for what the country needs.

 

[ACuriousPLAFan]

A J-16D flying right beside a Y-20A. Posted by @沉默的山羊 on Weibo.

 

[Alpine_Lynx]

Um, this is a bit of an old topic, but since no one has talked about it yet, it’s fine, right?
Regarding the J-11 from the Air Force Engineering University posted last year, some new images were posted recently

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, and they show a J-11 equipped with interesting PF10 pylons. As far as I know, this is the first time we've seen this, right?

 

[Blitzo]

Um, this is a bit of an old topic, but since no one has talked about it yet, it’s fine, right?
Regarding the J-11 from the Air Force Engineering University posted last year, some new images were posted recently

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, and they show a J-11 equipped with interesting PF10 pylons. As far as I know, this is the first time we've seen this, right?View attachment 177771View attachment 177772View attachment 177773

As far as I know, yes.
And the first time that we've seen a PL-10 of any kind (in this case, a mockup) being associated with a J-11A of any sort.

But considering these J-11As are for the engineering university and should be non-flying and non-functional, it makes sense.

PL-10 is now the standard SRAAM, and makes sense to use old/obsolete Flanker airframes to train/educate using contemporary representative payloads when practically viable.

 

[Deino]

Um, this is a bit of an old topic, but since no one has talked about it yet, it’s fine, right?
Regarding the J-11 from the Air Force Engineering University posted last year, some new images were posted recently

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, and they show a J-11 equipped with interesting PF10 pylons. As far as I know, this is the first time we've seen this, right?View attachment 177771View attachment 177772View attachment 177773

That's a J-16 (left first image and background second one) ... not a J-11!