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Interesting tidbit:

Liu Pengyu, a spokesman for China’s embassy in Washington, confirmed to the South China Morning Post in an email on Monday that Wang had taken his own life.

“We are deeply distressed by this tragedy,” Liu wrote, adding that the US had “overstretched” the concept of national security and subjected
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He called on the US government to conduct a thorough investigation, provide a responsible explanation to Wang’s family and the Chinese side, and end what he described as discriminatory law enforcement practices.
 

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Markets cheer as Trump says he’s in ‘heated negotiations’ over a new Pakistani two-week ceasefire plan​


President Donald Trump said he was in “heated negotiations” to extend his self-imposed 8 p.m. Tuesday deadline for Iran to reopen the Strait of Hormuz after Pakistan’s prime minister made a plea in an 11th-hour attempt to stop the U.S. bombing of Iranian infrastructure.

Asked if he would grant the extension request of two weeks, Trump
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in a phone interview: “I can’t tell you, because right now we’re in heated negotiations.”

He did add that he and Pakistani Prime Minister Shehbaz Sharif, who is mediating between the U.S. and Iran, are in talks: “I can say this—that I know him very well. He’s a highly respected man, all over.”



Just an hour earlier, Sharif made a last-minute call to Trump, requesting the U.S. reconsider targeting Iranian power plants and bridges, the latest of Trump’s threats to Iran as the war enters its sixth week.

“Diplomatic efforts for peaceful settlement of the ongoing war in the Middle East are progressing steadily, strongly, and powerfully with the potential to lead to substantive results in near future,” the prime minister
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. “To allow diplomacy to run its course, I earnestly request President Trump to extend the deadline for two weeks.”

White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said in a statement that Trump “has been made aware of the proposal, and a response will come,” according to
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News.

This back and forth call for negotiations has caused the markets to rally late Tuesday afternoon. The diplomacy came after Trump threatened on social media to wipe out Iran’s “whole civilization,” a post that prompted Iranian mediators to briefly halt participation in talks,
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, citing a person familiar with the matter. A senior White House official downplayed the move and said legitimate negotiations were continuing.

Markets cheered on the headlines. The S&P 500 erased a 1.2% intraday decline to close up, while Brent crude slid to as low as $104.50 after settling near $109. West Texas Intermediate barely fell, however, only 0.4% to $111.93 a barrel.

Its funny how India keeps dissing Pakistan as a Pariah Nation that has nothing. Yet somehow it was trusted more for extremely important negotiations over Supapowa India. If these actually go through, India is gonna look like a real idiot at the end of it all.
 

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Since my post is China related, I'll put it here. For now, assuming the ceasefire holds and Trump does end up accepting Iran's terms, the global lesson is that strangling the American consumer is a viable pressure point when you take on a military superpower like the United States. No less strangling the American consumer in an election year. If Iran, a regional player attacking an energy chokepoint, was able to pull this off, imagine what a near peer adversary like China could accomplish.

So contrary to all that hoopla that China after Venezuela and Iran was no superpower since it only had economics in its arsenal for global power projection, Iran has proven that in the 21st Century economics, propaganda, public sentiment, are weapons as potent as any bomb.
 

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Since my post is China related, I'll put it here. For now, assuming the ceasefire holds and Trump does end up accepting Iran's terms, the global lesson is that strangling the American consumer is a viable pressure point when you take on a military superpower like the United States. No less strangling the American consumer in an election year. If Iran, a regional player attacking an energy chokepoint, was able to pull this off, imagine what a near peer adversary like China could accomplish.

So contrary to all that hoopla that China after Venezuela and Iran was no superpower since it only had economics in its arsenal for global power projection, Iran has proven that in the 21st Century economics, propaganda, public sentiment, are weapons as potent as any bomb.
Trump dealt with easy opponents like South America and got too big headed thinking Iran was the same thing.

Iranians aren't even arabs. They're an entirely different beasts. They can create shaheed drones despite being under sanctions for decades while many other nations can't do that despite having no limitations.
 

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Since my post is China related, I'll put it here. For now, assuming the ceasefire holds and Trump does end up accepting Iran's terms, the global lesson is that strangling the American consumer is a viable pressure point when you take on a military superpower like the United States. No less strangling the American consumer in an election year. If Iran, a regional player attacking an energy chokepoint, was able to pull this off, imagine what a near peer adversary like China could accomplish.

So contrary to all that hoopla that China after Venezuela and Iran was no superpower since it only had economics in its arsenal for global power projection, Iran has proven that in the 21st Century economics, propaganda, public sentiment, are weapons as potent as any bomb.

I mean, the fact that most Americans themselves now believe that the US is on a path toward
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, should have told you that the US society is not ready to wage any kind of major war anymore. I don't understand how anyone thought, even on this forum, that you can separate the military potential from social health. This is what I brought up on the Taiwan thread a few years ago. The US social metrics are in the range of India. They were even classified by Edelman as one of the most polarized countries in the world a few years back. This offensive on Iran was supported by only around 30% Maga cultists, and was rapidly descending. The first war in the history of the US that not only started so low in approval but was also rapidly descending. This shows that even their internal propaganda machine started malfunctioning due to political divisions. Don't get me started on true economic metrics. They import everything from China, are the most indebted nation in history, and have economically stagnated for decades, if we exclude fake or misleading metrics.



 
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