2026 Israel-US vs. Iran conflict [Military updates/News Only]

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iewgnem

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DriedDragonfruit said:
If the location is true then it's pretty embarrassing for the Iranians. It's one thing to let the Americans extract their pilot a few dozen kms from the border, but it's another thing to let them extract him from the literal center of your country. Isfahan is around 385 km to the nearest Iraqi border, the scenario would be roughly analogous to extracting someone from somewhere southeast of Las Vegas, which would be around 350 km to the Pacific and also near a major city. You can't really laugh at the Americans for losing some planes and helicopters then if the location is actually near Isfahan.
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I think you grossly overestimated the difficulty dying deep inside Iran, especially if your mission doesn't require you to extract anyone alive.

I don't think most people appreciate how big the world is: Iran is a huge place that takes days to drive across and hours to fly at cruising speed, and US picked as remote a site as possible to set up FOB, it's statistically impossible for Iran to just happen to have forces on the ground in the area within the tiny time window available. For Iran to down a dozen aircraft and blowing up C-130 with engines hot without their own jets or AWACs, they needed to have prior knowledge of both the exact location of the FOB and the intended low altitude route in and out.

To put it in simpler terms, the only way Iran could have inflict this amount of loses on the US is if the entire thing was a trap that US jumped into.
 
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Africablack

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DriedDragonfruit said:
If the location is true then it's pretty embarrassing for the Iranians. It's one thing to let the Americans extract their pilot a few dozen kms from the border, but it's another thing to let them extract him from the literal center of your country. Isfahan is around 385 km to the nearest Iraqi border, the scenario would be roughly analogous to extracting someone from somewhere southeast of Las Vegas, which would be around 350 km to the Pacific and also near a major city. You can't really laugh at the Americans for losing some planes and helicopters then if the location is actually near Isfahan.
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The only thing embarrassing is to claim air supremacy only to have to scramble to save crew after fighter jets are shot down.
 
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valysre

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iewgnem said:
Can you come up with a better excuse for two C-130 getting blown up?
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The toilets must've gotten clogged.
ForcedTrend said:
no, all proof suggest they were downed
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The comment on blade warping doesn't necessarily hold up; it's possible the aircraft had engines spinning when it was scuttled, and when the engine dropped, the blades bent. Now, I think it's likely that it was damaged on approach and crashed, but I also think that scuttling is possible.
 
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valysre said:
The toilets must've gotten clogged.

The comment on blade warping doesn't necessarily hold up; it's possible the aircraft had engines spinning when it was scuttled, and when the engine dropped, the blades bent. Now, I think it's likely that it was damaged on approach and crashed, but I also think that scuttling is possible.
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NGL, I don't think it was a crash. Debris fields are too coherent unless the MC-130s belly flopped onto the ground. In that case you would be able to see signs of impact on the terrain. Planes probably ate enough damage on approach that takeoff was impossible.
 
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PanAsian

Major
Temstar said:
I think this is a fairly good approximation of that crazy plan leaked a few days ago of an attack on Isfahan where they plan to air assault in, form a parameter and have engineers build an airfield, then use it to land heavy excavation equipment to then dig into Isfahan to allow it to be stormed and the uranium within captured.

Given the result this time I can say if the bigger plan is carried out you'll expect them to be able to get the ground ready enough to land a few C-130, but the excavation with heavy equipment part is likely to be disastrous given Iranian performance this time.
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I would have to disagree. US forces are well equipped and likely advantaged in these circumstances for brute force and mobile operations. The ROE for CSAR is likely more limiting than for a raid regardless of what Hegseth or Trump says. The raid will be on a known location, favoring the attacker in that they determine the time and the place while the defender both have to disperse forces at first then rush forces to the target location.
 
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