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iewgnem

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When USS Bonhomme burned, it was unsalvagable despite all the assets nearby CONUS to extinguish it. Fire on ships are serious hazard and the story could be that simple.

Might be low morale and exhaustion that lead to slow fire response but an ARMED mutiny is a much MUCH bigger problem, i swear some of you guys are in reading into things way too much.
First of all you do realize having your helicopter carrier burn down in home port isn't normal right?

Bonhomme's fire happened when it only had a skeleton crew and it's fire suppression system was disabled.
Ford's fire happened during active combat operations with a full crew...

The only kind of "morale" issue that can lead to it taking 30 hours to put out a "laundry fire" with a full damage containment crew and working fire suppression system is if large number of crew are wiling to face open treason charges (because there's no way to hide what they did) to go home early, which has the same consequences as an armed mutiny.
 

another505

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Bonhomme was burning while crews were kinda away. This wash machine thing happened on active deployment though.
First of all you do realize having your helicopter carrier burn down in home port isn't normal right?

Bonhomme's fire happened when it only had a skeleton crew and it's fire suppression system was disabled.
Ford's fire happened during active combat operations with a full crew...

The only kind of "morale" issue that can lead to it taking 30 hours to put out a "laundry fire" with a full damage containment crew and working fire suppression system is if large number of crew are wiling to face open treason charges (because there's no way to hide what they did) to go home early, which has the same consequences as an armed mutiny.
Yes, I know that there are questions why Bonhomme got on fire in the first place but it took many crew, fire engine, and helicopter and it still didn't work. Fire could spread quickly and hard to contain.

I won't deny that the wash machine could be sabotaged by dissenting sailors, some other ex navy sailor said that it could simply be someone leaving their flammable vape inside their laundry setting it on fire , or simply the maintenance for the dryer for 4000+ people after 10 months duty is finally broken down and short circuit, or the lint for 4k+ crew actually caught on fire which the exhausted and demoralized crew was unable to contain as fast as they trained for.

YET! Iewgenem determine it as a hidden ARMED MUTINY is hilarious and conspiracy level.

Protest by sabotaging it on fire or not trying to stop the fire effectively and ARMED mutiny is two very different thing.

The latter is a fire fight with guns and attempt to take over the ship. The consequence of armed mutiny is death or life imprisonment, far different from plausible deniability of oopsie, someone left their vape on the laundry.

There's nothing to source it besides vibe and bias that 30hr is somehow armed mutiny. And heck, if it is actually an armed mutiny, I am surprised it only took 30 hour to stop it and only two were severely wounded.
 

Serb

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What ground invasion? I think we are potentially a few weeks away from this exact scenario:

Next month, Trump: I am pulling all US forces out of the ME because they just don’t appreciate all we do for them and so don’t deserve our protection any more!

Month after that: I have ordered the Gulf Countries to stop selling oil in USD. Using the USD is a great privilege and they don’t deserve it any more!


Trump in 3 Months:


Iran is a beautiful place, I always said it, very beautiful. Great people, great mountains, tremendous culture. I have now ordered a complete unsanction package, total relief, because that is what winning looks like.

Very smart people understand that.

I then told the Gulf countries, who frankly owe us a lot, you are going to invest in Iran now. Big money. Huge money. Repair everything. Build everything. And they said, thank you sir, thank you President Trump.
 
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