2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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SteelBird

Colonel
1: No shit, that's what a ceasefire is.
2: Still talking about negotiating, eh? Tsk tsk, can't teach this old dog new trick. Hope he made that shit up himself and the IRGC wants nothing to do with it.
3: WTF does that even mean in this context?

Overall rating: Sounds retarded
Agreed. I see only two ways out:

1. The US and Israel see no profit or too costly to continue fighting and withdraw from the war by declaring objects achieved, winning.
2. Iran defeated on the battlefield. Regime changed.
 

plawolf

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this approach isn't great for anti high altitude, but it is good for hitting helicopters, drones and CAS assets. as long as you can do that, it makes a ground invasion nearly impossible.

Yes, high altitude is indeed a major limitation of this approach in terms of both detection and missile performance.

If Iran had any traditional AD left, using this in conjunction with traditional AD could prove massively profitable.
 

obj 705A

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This is just an ambassador. A very low level official. He has no authority. He was likely asked what is Iran's position regarding negotiations so he just threw those vague general guidlines calling for an end to the conflict and expressed the importance of a multipolar world.

In reality he himself probably doesn't know what is his country's policy.
 

plawolf

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They were always meant to; entire IRGC ADF force is ambush force. The problem is failure to get manned aircraft (target at which they spent majority of their effort through 2010s and 2020s) - yes, reaper attrition was unsustainable against Yemen (a country not worth anything), Iran is one hell of a prize.
I.e. there will be eventual tactical consequences for attrition of reaper fleet, but it isn't a political show stopper.
Basically, to really make US consider, they should be bringing down manned aircraft at a tempo they're managing reapers.

This, potentially with 1-2 butchered SAR operations, would've ensured they aren't worth to crack again. Otherwise it's mostly just money. Gulf will compensate all American fiscal losses just by rearming after war.

I think the Vietnamese offer the best tactics for ambush forces for Iran’s capabilities.

The Vietnamese are infamous for their min-max tactics, where they would dismantle radars and missiles and hump them up mountains and through dense jungle to reassemble where you would never expect a SAM to ever be able to get to. This would be particularly applicable to Iran’s mountainous terrain.

The problem would be a lack of forest cover making it far more likely for the prep work or assembled batteries to be discovered. But Iran’s attrition of American and Israeli MALE drones would go a long way to helping mitigate those risks.

As more and more Reapers and the likes are lost, I would not be surprised if we started getting stories of SAMs being shot from the tops of mountains at American and Israeli warplanes.
 

_killuminati_

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I feel like it will be a good tactic to put AAM on Shaheeds. Russians already do it in Ukraine but Iran would utilize it in a different manner. Instead of using them to hunt drones, they can potentially use them to threaten enemy combat aircraft tasked with intercepting them. Instead of using laser guided rockets or even auto cannons they’d be forced to use more expensive, longer ranged missiles to engage them, since there is a minuscule but none zero chance that the prey could bite back.
How would they use an AAM without a fire control radar? How do Russians do it?
 

mack8

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Plenty of AAMs do not require radar. Could just be a case of activating it (drone plus AAM) through a signal and it doing a pre-programmed search pattern and locking on whatever comes into view, or a more sophisticate FPV EO system with a man in the loop to lock on a target, or other similar ways.
Come to think of it, they could put the guidance head of the 358/359 SAM and make the Shahed into a kind of AAM itself, albeit slow, but still dangerous to helos.
 

_killuminati_

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Because Iran isn't an island.

Have you not seen the CNN guy driving from a neighbouring country to Iran on a road trip and getting coffee at rest stops as though nothing's happening? With trucks and tractor trailers just resting there while the driver takes a break. Oh and they also have multiple rail link to central Asia carrying oil.

Even Azerbaijan just reopened road trade with Iran lol
Most of Iran's neighbors are oil & gas producers though, except Pakistan. They do have significant unofficial diesel exports to Pakistan but how much can Pakistan actually buy unofficially?
 
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