2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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jiajia99

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The guy whose dad just got murdered. I'm sure this will bode well for Iran's enemies...
Not just murdered but killed suddenly without declaration along with much of his family and his enemies all but fapping at the result and gloating like dogs without a hint of self reflection. Sure, I would think that if he does end up getting hit one day that at the very least he would want to eliminate the entire Jewish leadership and reduce Israel to a fourth world state comparable to Gaza by the time he’s done.

I am sure if anyone did the same to my family I would do the same, something the Americans seem quite immune to understanding because no one until now has ever put the fear of God in them but once the US economy collapses and it’s allies start of abandon them, they might start think twice but it would be too late then. Seriously I wonder how long Trump can escape to his golf course until the eventual realities start of catch up to him because he owns this mess along with that other mass murdering monster
 
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Gloire_bb

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1. North Vietnam signs agreement first in October 1972.
2. US starts bombing North Vietnam... for apparently no reason... and gets 7:1 ratio'ed in air combat while only killing civilians.
3. It starts a media blitz to frame this operation as a complete success. Even US historians themselves say that this was a media blitz and complete cope.
4. It was unable to get North Vietnam to change any of its diplomatic positions.
5. It then signs the same treaty North Vietnam signed.
Check full story from autumn negotiations. Long story short, US at some point lost control of Nguyen(who pulled off full Zelensky), and after some push back and forth basically saboteged the whole treaty themselves. Returning to status quo ante after breach of negotiations(bordering bad faith) was already a significant achievement.
By all logic it should've been worse.
 

iewgnem

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Iranian ADs don't prevent US/IS to bomb now at roughly x3 the average Russian rate, at most major targets in the country.
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This is where things are over large part of the country today. Pay attention to the wings. Yes, it's F-35.
And no, Russia can't flatten Kiev in 2 months with just FABs. It never could(and frankly you can't really flatten city of this size in two months with existing VKS even with free access).

Terror bombing is nothing more and nothing less than extension of terror tactics. Those go from the dawn of history; 鸡犬不留 didn't appear first in western culture, after all.

Iranian government went through massive civil unrest less than two months ago. US being even less popular(and foreign invaders) doesn't make Ayatollahs popular. This is chosing lesser evil(and your own bastard, however bad at governance, interested in well-being of the country, over the foreign one, who is specifically not interested in it)
1 - Kiev has 6000 residential buildings, it takes 100 FAB-500 a day over 60 days to bomb every single one, that's only 25 sorties a day and only a fraction of Russian sortie rate in Eastern Ukraine, and that's without use of bombers. The only reason you think Russia couldn't is because western culture fundamentally cannot comprehend why anyone would not do it if they are physically able. The converse is also true for USIS in Iran, every fibre of their being screams the desire to terror bomb, but they're simply not able to do it at scale because of distance and AD.

2 - Terror is not an extension of mass killing, mass killing and even genocide is the physical destruction of the enemy, terror does not achieve that, terror only aims to harm in the belief it will cause the enemy to surrender. The reason you can't tell the difference is because you're not really approaching it from the direction of results, you're only trying to justify what western cultural instinct want to do post-hoc.

3 - Iran did not go through massive civil unrest 2 month ago, but if you were to subscribe to that narrative, you should then also subscribe to the narrative that they've been physically eradicated, all who remains are in support. Reality is people are not machines and someone who had liberal views is fully capable of becoming pro-government hardliners, with your favourite tactic: terror bombing, being the most effective catalyst.

At end of the day, even if you ignore all morality or civilized behaviour, the ultimate sin of Zionists isn't that they're evil, it's that they're stupid.
 

Aqrab

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Hi,
if I’m not mistaken on this thread I have read somewhere USA want him to be taken over from his
father and surrender everything in initial negotiations under Oman.
thank you

There is vast difference between what a president and imam of shia can get done.

When US president orders some military, they do it for salary and if the work is hard or dangerous they naturally feel angry and may not do the job well.

Plus president can only order few things and his orders can only executed under an organizational setting with limited budget and with reasonable safety provided.

But when an imam, a spiritual leader who is seen as indirectly divinely chosen, as circumstances are seen coming from God, orders to get rid of Trump, its the Trump who will feel unsafe, hiding looking over his shoulder wherever he goes. Even secret service task becomes extremely hard.

Under the orders of Imam, Shia from europe to africa, (or even a sunni husband of shia wife, may be, ) many with technologically advanced capabilities ranging from cyber-security to advanced covert warfare, begins chasing you, its becomes an extreme nightmare to keep hiding and avoiding. Your wife leaves, children leave you as no one can live under such extreme threats.

Trump assasinaton attempts were IRGC decision if true but likely Israeli "arrangements" to get him elected.

Imam by nature of their religious practice are not afraid. Since Islam expects once you are religious sunni or shia, that you will be kind far more than possible for an average person and so this imam won't be doing ugly things such as assasinations for personal revenge, He will likely meet this expectation of being kind and forgiving.

Even forgiveness if trump sincerely asks since once again islamic leader sunni or shia is meant to be way kinder and forgiving then common person.

But trump likes killing innocent civilians. So it can trigger right to respond even by an imam. He must protect the innocent also.

All orders are executed by humans. Compared to orders by president, orders by an imam are carried out with devotion, sincerity and extreme risk taking resolve that can never by rivaled by a military personal. an Imam knows that.

Previous imam, now martyred by Trump never ordered trump's death, ever.

If for iranian national security or justice for his father,or to save the innocent, the new imam orders trump to be gone.

Despite secrete service presence, To keep his life after presidency, Its the trump who will be doing the surrendering and negotiating.
 
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