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Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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Bellum_Romanum

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I have said before and I will say it again. Small and middle powers should be aware of their own relevance and limitations(I watch video of former Singapore foreign minister who said the same thing). You should not have an open/public hostile relationship with any superpower. In fact you should be trying to court them and balance it with your own interests . It’s foolish adopting a hostile relationship with any superpower. Since if that superpower decides to disregards all laws and restrain them they will impose heavy blows and destruction to you without suffering as much consequences . So it’s imperative to have level headed and shrewd leaders for middle powers.
In this regard, Iran has failed completely. The results we see today are the culmination of decades of bad decisions and policies which has steamrolled to what we see today. Today most of their Arab neighbors and even Turkey are better off than them(again due to their leaders policies and shrewdness), . Iran has found itself with barely any real ally to even help them (apart from some militias like hezbollah who have been weakened to the point of being a shadow of their former self today ). Damn…who could have thought Hamas stupid against Israel on October 7 will lead to this(axis of resistance almost destroyed and weakened to this state). It seems like a domino started since that crazy day.

Anyway, this my point also applies to other small/middle powers in Asia like Philippines/Taiwan (Japan is bigger and still have the industrial might for her own actions ) who seem to think antagonizing China for nationalistic/patriotic reasons is a good idea, seems this middle countries haven’t learned anything from the Ukraine conflict and how Ukraine is suffering from some decisions she made(despite heavy European support), hopefully Iran’s situation today will make them think twice again. Well, at least I understand Philippines and Taiwan leaders , they dare do so since they know the current military superpower US is behind them and backs them, so I can still give them some leeway(even though I think it’s a misguided policy ) , but I fail to understand what Iran has even been counting on to be honest. In fact , the saving grace for Iran today is not the missiles and drones they still try and launch, it’s from US political landscape where there is strong opposition to any war in Middle East , because if this was 2003 where most Americans overwhelmingly supported such wars and didn’t mind being in it for years then afraid Iran would have been done for. So I think unlike Netanyahu who has strong support at home to deal with Iran once and for all , Trump will want a quick exit due to political reasons
What? I think your framing oversimplify a far more constrained reality. Middle powers don’t simply “choose” to court superpowers when the terrain is deliberately rigged against them from day one. Iran’s story since 1979 is one of existential siege plus asymmetric resilience, not perpetual self-inflicted hostility.
The Islamic Republic was labeled enemy NUMERO UNO by the U.S. and its allies the moment it was founded. Immediate sanctions, followed by the 1980–88 Iran-Iraq War where Saddam received full Western and Israeli backing — that wasn’t normal rivalry; it was an attempted strangulation.
Contrary to the “bad decisions” narrative, Iranian leaders repeatedly tried pragmatic off-ramps:
*Rafsanjani (1989–97) opened markets and reached toward Europe.
*Khatami (1997–2005) launched the “Dialogue Among Civilizations.”
*Rouhani delivered the 2015 JCPOA, which lifted sanctions and drove ~12% GDP growth before the U.S. unilaterally withdrew in 2018.
Each time, the door was FREAKING slammed shut. This is classic security dilemma: when global capital, SWIFT banking, spare parts, and technology are cut off, NO growth is possible. Sanctions operated as deliberate supply-chain warfare — forcing shadow fleets, barter deals, and high-risk corridors just to keep the economy breathing. Prolonged isolation inevitably breeds internal corruption and hardline factions, which Western intelligence services (U.S., UK, Israel) then exploited through disinformation and decapitation strikes.
Now, saying all of that DO NOT NEGATE IRANIAN mistakes. Of course Iran bears responsibility for ideological rigidity on some fronts — that compounded the problem. But the notion that Tehran had abundant “shrewd” options ignores the actual geopolitical map it inherited.
Even now, after the February 28 strikes that killed Khamenei and top commanders, and the degradation of key proxies, Iran CONTINUES CALIBRATED missile and drone responses rather than reckless escalation. That endurance under total blockade is no accident — it echoes Mao Zedong’s protracted people’s war: the seemingly weak outlasting the strong through strategic patience, self-reliance, and asymmetric tactics. A timeless Eastern strategic truth that Western blitzkrieg logic consistently underestimates.
The real lesson for other middle powers isn’t “just court the superpower.” It’s to recognise deliberate containment when you see it and build asymmetric resilience accordingly — because pure accommodation has its own graveyard (see Libya 2011).
 

phrozenflame

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It's hard to have an uprising when all the pro-US leaders that Trump favoured are dead due to... (check notes) Trump's air strike that took out Khamenei.

Don't tell me they got tipped off on Khamenei's location and decided to assassinate him without bothering to find out if their inside men will also be at this meeting.
It seems like Khamanei figured who were the snakes, called the meeting, ensured their presence and baited the US knowing Netanyahu will bite (his objective is different from Trump's) They took the bait, dude became martyr, went out the best way you possibly can in Shiite ideology, united the nation and knocked out the snakes. Best hand he could've played knowing military strikes are coming, now or after few days and he will die of natural causes soon anyway.
 

bebops

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I have said before and I will say it again. Small and middle powers should be aware of their own relevance and limitations(I watch video of former Singapore foreign minister who said the same thing). You should not have an open/public hostile relationship with any superpower. In fact you should be trying to court them and balance it with your own interests . It’s foolish adopting a hostile relationship with any superpower. Since if that superpower decides to disregards all laws and restrain them they will impose heavy blows and destruction to you without suffering as much consequences . So it’s imperative to have level headed and shrewd leaders for middle powers.
In this regard, Iran has failed completely. The results we see today are the culmination of decades of bad decisions and policies which has steamrolled to what we see today. Today most of their Arab neighbors and even Turkey are better off than them(again due to their leaders policies and shrewdness), . Iran has found itself with barely any real ally to even help them (apart from some militias like hezbollah who have been weakened to the point of being a shadow of their former self today ). Damn…who could have thought Hamas stupid against Israel on October 7 will lead to this(axis of resistance almost destroyed and weakened to this state). It seems like a domino started since that crazy day.

Anyway, this my point also applies to other small/middle powers in Asia like Philippines/Taiwan (Japan is bigger and still have the industrial might for her own actions ) who seem to think antagonizing China for nationalistic/patriotic reasons is a good idea, seems this middle countries haven’t learned anything from the Ukraine conflict and how Ukraine is suffering from some decisions she made(despite heavy European support), hopefully Iran’s situation today will make them think twice again. Well, at least I understand Philippines and Taiwan leaders , they dare do so since they know the current military superpower US is behind them and backs them, so I can still give them some leeway(even though I think it’s a misguided policy ) , but I fail to understand what Iran has even been counting on to be honest. In fact , the saving grace for Iran today is not the missiles and drones they still try and launch, it’s from US political landscape where there is strong opposition to any war in Middle East , because if this was 2003 where most Americans overwhelmingly supported such wars and didn’t mind being in it for years then afraid Iran would have been done for. So I think unlike Netanyahu who has strong support at home to deal with Iran once and for all , Trump will want a quick exit due to political reasons

For the past 300-400 hundreds of white world order, they have caused alot of harm than good. They don't act like a benevolent and passion kid. Military destruction is always in their mind

When China becomes a true superpower in 2050, we don't know how they are going to act. They might take control and removing all threats(by force if necessary) in the entire East Asia and South China Sea. A very strong military will embolden them to act against a threat. One thing for sure is China will stay in their own lane (Asia or even Africa)
 
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TPenglake

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Not much talk on Lebanon here besides whatever chatter can be found on clashes with Hezbollah. But from what I'm seeing online, believe it or not Iran isn't even getting the worst of this war destruction wise so far. Lebanese towns and Southern Beirut are basically being Khan Younised right now.

And it can only get worse, since Israel isn't in the mood for just a buffer zone this time around, they want to kill, maim, and capture every last Hezbollah fighter. I wonder if the Israelis will be so brutal that even if most of Lebanon despises Hezbollah, somehow they'll join in the resistance just to prevent Israeli soldiers and settlers from occupying their land.
 

enroger

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What? I think your framing oversimplify a far more constrained reality. Middle powers don’t simply “choose” to court superpowers when the terrain is deliberately rigged against them from day one. Iran’s story since 1979 is one of existential siege plus asymmetric resilience, not perpetual self-inflicted hostility.
The Islamic Republic was labeled enemy NUMERO UNO by the U.S. and its allies the moment it was founded. Immediate sanctions, followed by the 1980–88 Iran-Iraq War where Saddam received full Western and Israeli backing — that wasn’t normal rivalry; it was an attempted strangulation.
Contrary to the “bad decisions” narrative, Iranian leaders repeatedly tried pragmatic off-ramps:
*Rafsanjani (1989–97) opened markets and reached toward Europe.
*Khatami (1997–2005) launched the “Dialogue Among Civilizations.”
*Rouhani delivered the 2015 JCPOA, which lifted sanctions and drove ~12% GDP growth before the U.S. unilaterally withdrew in 2018.
Each time, the door was FREAKING slammed shut. This is classic security dilemma: when global capital, SWIFT banking, spare parts, and technology are cut off, NO growth is possible. Sanctions operated as deliberate supply-chain warfare — forcing shadow fleets, barter deals, and high-risk corridors just to keep the economy breathing. Prolonged isolation inevitably breeds internal corruption and hardline factions, which Western intelligence services (U.S., UK, Israel) then exploited through disinformation and decapitation strikes.
Now, saying all of that DO NOT NEGATE IRANIAN mistakes. Of course Iran bears responsibility for ideological rigidity on some fronts — that compounded the problem. But the notion that Tehran had abundant “shrewd” options ignores the actual geopolitical map it inherited.
Even now, after the February 28 strikes that killed Khamenei and top commanders, and the degradation of key proxies, Iran CONTINUES CALIBRATED missile and drone responses rather than reckless escalation. That endurance under total blockade is no accident — it echoes Mao Zedong’s protracted people’s war: the seemingly weak outlasting the strong through strategic patience, self-reliance, and asymmetric tactics. A timeless Eastern strategic truth that Western blitzkrieg logic consistently underestimates.
The real lesson for other middle powers isn’t “just court the superpower.” It’s to recognise deliberate containment when you see it and build asymmetric resilience accordingly — because pure accommodation has its own graveyard (see Libya 2011).

Well said. Iran's mistake was not that they antagonized the west too much, but rather that they bend backwards compromising their own interests to placate the west, so much so both the West and their own allies lost respect for them. If only Iran shown the tenacity they're showing now five years ago, then non of this would be happening, Trump won't even dare to went in. Iran's failure to deter the US has cost both themselves and the US dearly.

以地事秦,犹抱薪救火,薪不尽,火不灭。
 
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