2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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TPenglake

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I think the fixation on the amount of ballistic missiles Iran is launching ignores the other aspect of this war that's central to its strategy and that's the economic aspect. I mean, it shouldn't come as a surprise right? In Ukraine outside of the battlefield, everyone fixates on the state of the Russian economy and its potential collapse, a hope that never materializes due to Russia's continued oil exports. Even as the intensity of Iranian bombardments decline for whatever reason, including the worst case scenario of them running out, their drones alone have already upended the global economy and put the Gulf states under siege.

Keep in mind, the entirety of the GCC relies on imports for 85% of their food as well as desalination plants for water. Less we forget before oil, the Gulf region was no land of fertility and plenty, it was a wasteland where tribes subsisted off water wells and sheep, and having blood feuds over said water wells and sheep. With both commercial air and ship traffic to the Gulf countries cut off, they are as stated earlier under siege. Iran has many of the same problems as well, but something tells me that compared to the Iranian people who have been under sanctions for decades, Gulf citizens and their expats who are used to incredibly hedonistic lifestyles aren't going to take the new reality of war time scarcity all too well.

What of the world? Energy costs are spiking rapidly in Europe. As the war drags on, quality of life will decline especially as we get to winter if the war really lasts until then. Europeans aren't going to care why their QOL is declining, they'll just respond in kind by electing Far Right parties. More Far Right parties being elected of course will affect the course of the Ukraine War, where the US has all but abandoned Ukraine by this point and the EU is the country's sole backer. As more EU countries turn to the Right, then eventually Ukraine will face the harsh reality of either fighting the Russians to their last bullet or being forced to accept an unconditional surrender. East Asia will be in for a rough one, as countries like Japan and Korea rely on GCC oil for 90% of their imports.

And then the US, which of course won't be in danger of any shortages, but will face the effects of higher pump prices and inflation, on top of Trump's fanatics welcoming a quick victory over Iran but still hesistant to engage in a war of attrition. Come midterms, if situation in the US deteriorates to the point where the Democrats can actually be on the verge of winning enough seats in both chambers to impeach Trump, then something tells me the boys in the Gulf currently will be called back to the US for a more, pressing assignment to put it lightly.

All that, Iran can essentially accomplish with just drones instead of ballistic missiles.
 
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RottenPanzer

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They are going to use the kurds as fodder with US air support and some US special operations types. Basically, try to "Syrianize" the war rather than intervene themselves

To Syrianize Iran, they really an already existing organic support in generating a popular uprising, which was the case of the last January. But they missed the chance and only worsened their relations with the Iranian opposition by attacking almost indiscriminately last week, which could be seen as both the US and Israel are backstabbing the Iranian populace. The last thing Iranian wants are foreign invasion like the last Iran-Iraq War which solidified the pro-Islamic regime and anti-Islamic regime into an united front.

If they really wanted a popular uprising, the Coalition forces missed the chance in the last January.
 
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cqxt11

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if usrael is hitting enough launchers to physically reduce the capability that much then i am sure they would be posting much more evidence, instead it is a relatively few clips from drones (that are getting shot down more often) and standoff weapons like last time
 

tokenanalyst

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They are going to use the kurds as fodder with US air support and some US special operations types. Basically, try to "Syrianize" the war rather than intervene themselves
Let suppose all this bla bla bla is real and the Kurds decide to Join and the Turks are ok with it, them is another front and the US will have to dedicate air power and ammo to support a fight in the north. The Kurds are not going to get into Tehran without getting slaughtered. Meanwhile the drones, missiles and anti-ship missiles will keep raining even worse.
 

sheogorath

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Let suppose all this bla bla bla is real and the Kurds decide to Join and the Turks are ok with it, them is another front and the US will have to dedicate air power and ammo to support a fight in the north. The Kurds are not going to get into Tehran without getting slaughtered. Meanwhile the drones, missiles and anti-ship missiles will keep raining even worse.
No one said it was a well thought out plan or that it will work, just seems on brand for the complete lack of general planning beyond the initial strike the Trump administration has and why every US government official seems to be running around like headless chickens in a panic
 

iewgnem

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if usrael is hitting enough launchers to physically reduce the capability that much then i am sure they would be posting much more evidence, instead it is a relatively few clips from drones (that are getting shot down more often) and standoff weapons like last time
I mean, there's a pretty obvious reason # of launches are getting lower: Iran isn't firing missiles randomly for the fireworks, they have targets and there's no reason to destroy a target twice, especially if you plan on fighting a long war.

Arab energy export has been shut down, US embassy in multiple countries has been destroyed, THAAD radar has been hit, all US bases in the region has been taken out and emptied, it's now a very target sparse environment.

Also I think there is a very simple calculation to estimate the attrition question: is it easier to increase a bunker buster's reach depth, or is it easier to increase a tunnel's depth, in a country full of mountains.
 

FriedButter

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US officials to meet top defense contractors to boost weapons output: Report​

The Reuters news agency is reporting that the Trump administration plans to meet with executives from the biggest US defense contractors at the White House on Friday to discuss accelerating weapons production as the Pentagon works to replenish supplies after strikes on Iran.

The agency cited five people familiar with the plan, who said companies including Lockheed Martin and Raytheon have been invited to the meeting. One of the people said the gathering was expected to center on pressing weapons makers to move faster to boost output.

Reuters said the meeting reflects growing urgency in Washington to replenish weapons stocks depleted by the attacks on Iran, as well as the wars in Ukraine and Gaza. But in a social media post Monday, Trump said there was a “virtually unlimited supply” of US munitions and that “wars can be fought “forever,” and very successfully, using just these supplies.
One of the people said the gathering was expected to center on pressing weapons makers to move faster to boost output.

Totally 4 weeks.
 

iewgnem

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Totally 4 weeks.
Hasn't even been a week since Bloomberg said US defence firms are asking Trump to negotiate RE supplies in April because they're running out and have to halt production.
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There is a distinct possibility that there are infact consequences to having a government with zero competence in anything.
 

siegecrossbow

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Hasn't even been a week since Bloomberg said US defence firms are asking Trump to negotiate RE supplies in April because they're running out and have to halt production.
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There is a distinct possibility that there are infact consequences to having a government with zero competence in anything.
Time to take apart washing machines.
 
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