2026 Israel - Iranian conflict [TEMP LOCKED]

Will Iran-Israel conflict start again?


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sheogorath

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Hey, who knew if you took out the peaceniks, there was a chance the hardliners would take over. Hopefully this lesson stays for the Iranians


THE RAPTURE ISNT EVEN IN THE BIBLE its made up by american pastors. Truly american exceptionalism.
Yeah, most of the shit currently associated with christians came out of the American puritan death cults. The talibans of their time.
 

siegecrossbow

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Regarding some of the doom and gloom some users feel, of course there is no way for Iran to outright defeat the US and Israel in a military confrontation. But that's not what they have to do in order for their adversaries to ultimately lose.

The Americans in particular are incredibly risk averse and squirm at the thought of casualties mounting and their economic interest being increasingly hurt. And while the delusional hardliners in Ivdea couldn't care less and will continue to pressure them, the US will ultimately look for an out when their position becomes untenable in the eyes of the voter base and shareholders of large corporate entities. The Israelis cannot sustain large casualties either, which is why they seek to utilize proxies in the form of the Arabs, the Kurds and the Americans. But if Iran manages to sufficiently threaten the Arabs and the Kurds, to inflict enough pain on the Americans to spook them, then Israel has no choice but to abandon their war of destruction against Iran and it's people.

Which means, Iran has to commit to doing what they've done so far. Which is to hold out and strike as many targets as possible. Military facilities, ships, infrastructure, residencies, the whole nine yards. Because only so will they make their adversaries feel pain. And with increased threat level, with missiles and drones flying, bases becoming unusable, staging areas getting pushed further out and sorties increasing, then we'll see accidents and losses also rise.

So yes, Iran cannot knock out and beat the US and Israel into submission, but it can give them a bloody nose and make especially the Americans consider if that's a fight they want to fight to the bitter end. And the Americans are under even more pressure with the Russians breathing down their neck in Ukraine and the PLA expanding their capabilities in the Western Pacific. Yes this is existential for Iran, but it can also be a nail in the coffin for the US+IL hegemony as they expend money, resources and ordnance indiscriminately.

You are getting it. All Iran needs to do is not to lose. As long as they last 15 rounds against Apollo Creed they got this in the bag.
 

EmoBirb

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Looking at that letter from CENTCOM, i don’t think we should discount the role of evangelical “Christian taliban” of the dubya era in the military and political establishment. The language suggests some in the U.S. view this conflict as a holy war, no different to Shia Iranians right now.
There is no such thing in the Pentagon. Especially not considering what I last heard the most common flag within the building after the American one, was the Israeli one (talking about showing your colors, I guess?). The motivation for this war comes directly, delivered by amazon prime so to speak, from Jerusalem and Tel Aviv. There's no thing they take greater joy in than having everyone who isn't them massacre each other. And as we see, the ones who suffer the most right now are Iranians and the Gulf Arabs, while the Americans are watching their foothold in the region evaporate which they established over multiple decades. It doesn't take a degree in political sciences to realize that the perfect middle east for Israel consists of the subservient Muslim world, successfully vassalized and beaten into submission (examples include all of the Gulf States, Egypt, Syria, Lebanon) with Iran completely removed from the equation, minimal American oversight thanks to losses in infrastructure and the foreign interest groups in Washington. And ultimately they would control the flow of goods through the Suez and Hormuz as the sole regional (nuclear) power. It's truly a checklist and it's rather apparent once written out. First the establishment of Zionist movements, then the increase in settler activity, then their terrorist campaign against the british colonial presence, the establishment of their state, beating the palestinians down, kicking the Europeans out of the region for good following the Suez crisis and the arming of anti-french and anti-british groups across the region, developing the nuke with South Africa, settling the score with Syria and Egypt for good, getting the Gulf states to cozy up through US pressure, smashing Syria through brutal civil war and now Iran is next. They kicked out the Europeans, they beat down the Arabs, they hold the Americans on a leash and now the Iranians are the last major obstacle towards undisputed regional supremacy. Including the shipping and oil of the region as well as having created a multitude of buffer states between themselves and anyone who could interfere. Hertzl would shed a tear of Joy if he could see the state of the middle east right now.

And because of all of the above, of which Iranian higher ups are more than aware (because Israel never tried to hide their ambitions) they know that this is an all out war for survival. Not only for Iran as a regional power, but possibly also for Iranian culture and heritage.
 

Gloire_bb

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Appeared to me, that the greatest irony of bombardment of Iran that they fundamentally, in principle can't destroy Iranian nuclear materials. Uranium is metal, stored in ingots.
Even if your mark 999 bomb explodes right in the secret bunker - they just...fly and get buried. And since no, secret bunker doesn't automatically transform back into solid rock, you just dig them back with immediately available normal construction equipment.

p.s. nevermind, asked people in the know - it's kept as powder(Uranium dioxide or uranium hexafluoride under pressure). Since both evaporate at 56 deg - by starting a fire around you can indeed do it to a degree. Though chemical processing of the debris will still get it back.
 
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CaribouTruth

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Regarding earlier point on "evangelical christan taliban" Humorous but certainly something of concern. You can never discount ideology.
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U.S. Troops Were Told Iran War Is for “Armageddon,” Return of Jesus

Advocacy group reports commanders giving similar messages at more than 30 installations in every branch of the military
A combat-unit commander told non-commissioned officers at a briefing Monday that the Iran war is part of God’s plan and that Pres. Donald Trump was “anointed by Jesus to light the signal fire in Iran to cause Armageddon and mark his return to Earth,” according to a complaint by a non-commissioned officer.
From Saturday morning through Monday night, more than 110 similar complaints about commanders in every branch of the military had been logged by the Military Religious Freedom Foundation (MRFF).
The complaints came from more than 40 different units spread across at least 30 military installations, the MRFF told me Monday night.
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