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[Gloire_bb]

But Iran reached this level of "common hypersonic glide body" style HGV before India. Even North Korea has managed to put at least three distinct types of wedge HGVs into service (possibly from China). None of these nations have two way space based communication.

If you look at the list, HGVs will appear as a goal- directed challenge rather technology- one.

I.e. all nations that got HGV first have strong intermediate range problems with the US.
Second batch(India, US) now do same aimed at PLAN.
Consider it recognition!

 

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The United Aircraft Corporation (UAC) of Rostec State Corporation and the Indian company Flamingo Aerospace announced a strategic partnership and signed a preliminary agreement for the delivery of six Il-114-300 aircraft. The official signing ceremony took place at the Wings India 2026 International Aviation Exhibition at Begumpet Airport (Hyderabad).

The cooperation program is aimed at meeting India's growing demand for regional aviation. The delivery of six Il-114-300 aircraft will be the first stage.

In addition, as part of the agreements, UAC will provide Flamingo Aerospace with a roadmap for the development of aviation competencies. This will allow the Indian company to gradually increase its capabilities in assembly, modification, maintenance, repair, and overhaul of aircraft, as well as infrastructure development. The agreement reflects the parties' readiness to develop sustainable long-term aviation projects in India after signing final agreements and obtaining regulatory approvals.

“We are proud to take this important step forward with UAC of Rostec State Corporation, marking a new era of regional aviation in India. This partnership brings advanced aircraft and technologies to the Indian market and lays the foundation for building sustainable aviation capabilities and skilled jobs in the country. Together, we strive to improve regional connectivity and support a strong, self-sufficient aviation sector in India,” said Subhakar Pappula, Founder and CEO of Flamingo Aerospace.

In addition, the company expressed interest in implementing other UAC programs. This will position Flamingo Aerospace as a key partner in promoting Russian aviation products in India.

“The Indian air transport market is growing at the fastest pace in the world - by 11% annually. Today, it is the third largest. This creates prerequisites for the commercial success of our aircraft in the region. Today, we confirmed this by signing the first contract for the delivery of Il-114-300 aircraft with Flamingo Aerospace. The signed preliminary agreement covers the delivery of six aircraft starting from 2028, and we plan to further expand our cooperation,” noted Vadim Badeha, CEO of the United Aircraft Corporation of Rostec State Corporation.

 

[ougoah]

If you look at the list, HGVs will appear as a goal- directed challenge rather technology- one.

I.e. all nations that got HGV first have strong intermediate range problems with the US.
Second batch(India, US) now do same aimed at PLAN.
Consider it recognition!

I've no doubt their new HGV is threatening enough as a weapon against static land targets, and large ones at that. While they do suggest it is an anti-ship capable weapon, I have high doubts this thing is accurate enough to hit a ship sized target, even one that isn't moving.

India has not yet demonstrated ability to create an MaRV anti-ship ballistic missile. People doubted China's MaRV anti-ship ballistic missiles throughout the 2010s until the US confirmed PLARF had that accuracy and PLARF then demonstrated that accuracy in August 2020.

Everyone else can barely direct a hypersonic weapon whether it's MaRV or HGV onto a static ship sized target with enough accuracy.

After all it's only been China with life sized targets on rails in the desert and training against them for over a decade.

India has barely put MIRV onto their IRBMs, MaRVs are there just to throw off interceptors not to hit ship sized targets. It's a move in the direction and certainly one for PLA to respect and assume is deadly accurate but we can be real. No space based communications for targeting or possibly even relay (no constellations of these types of satellites or the foundational technology and industries that do so), no missile program with advanced seeker and guidance technology except Nirbhay but terrain following and target mapping cruise missile guidance tech is not transferable to high flying maneuvering hypersonic. Everything else is imported and no industry anywhere near leading edge tech to speak of. When the US can barely do it despite having the need, India is here claiming me too.

 

[Gloire_bb]

Well, they're working on it. Can they demonstrate it or not, we'll see - but intent to crerate dancing variant of PLARGF is here...
(as for MIRVs, it way more straighforward: India didn't conduct enough nuclear tests for compact packages, nor they have access to laser facilities to compensate).

 

[ougoah]

Well, they're working on it. Can they demonstrate it or not, we'll see - but intent to crerate dancing variant of PLARGF is here...
(as for MIRVs, it way more straighforward: India didn't conduct enough nuclear tests for compact packages, nor they have access to laser facilities to compensate).

India certainly wants to create their own PLARF but if they can muster together the brains in such a nation that loses more of their top tier minds than any other, where do they find the funds? The nation that makes China's corruption problems seem innocent in comparison. No, I believe India will continue to bs. They don't have the organisation and when they do, they miss the talent and when they find that, they lack the funds. It'll be perpetual whack a mole with India. All those things just can't align in this age of the world. The greater powers actually will not even allow it anymore. You'll have to need all those ingredients come together perfectly AND have the greater powers underestimate and miscalculate against you for decades.

Jai Hind chanters will say they will build their economy up, strong like the superpowers then they'll pool all the tools and skills and money and then they'll rule the world. They honestly do not consider the balance of things, truly the chanters are a people with a disposition for fantasy and their rational ones (those actually capable of bringing about such a destiny... the irony) can barely speak through the shouting.

 

[Gloire_bb]

India certainly wants to create their own PLARF but if they can muster together the brains in such a nation that loses more of their top tier minds than any other, where do they find the funds?

As time goes on, they produce and absorb more of both. India ultimately is growing rapidly. I don't know if contradictions of this nation will tear it apart, but for now the course is steady.

Talent loss in modern economies is ultimately by design - it's pressure release mechanism. Don't let them out - and who knows when disgruntled scholar will see a vision with Jesus.

Talent drain isn't a sign of a failed nation, it's a sign of developing nation with higher than necessary education output, and with open borders.

 

[Nevermore]

I should remind everyone that it's high time we completely abandoned the notion that India is forever a failed nation. India is on the path to success.



India may well have dirty streets and chaotic, vulgar social order for the next two decades, yet it continues to develop in a positive direction through its own unique system—sustaining economic and technological progress, reforming institutions, and constantly gathering social feedback for optimization. You may dislike Modi as a person, you may dismiss his Hindu nationalist policies and manufacturing incentives as rubbish, but his policies have indeed united the Indian people and enabled India to recognize the fundamental conditions required to become a global power.



What truly destroys a nation's future is its internal chaos, rigidity, vicious infighting, and even fragmentation.—such as the class conflicts, racial tensions, and institutional inertia seen in Europe and the United States; or the ignorance and incompetence of African leaders coupled with a lack of state control; or the protracted civil wars and external conflicts plaguing Middle Eastern nations. These are the true hallmarks of a civilization's decline.



We observe India continuing to open its doors to the world, with its economy and technology maintaining rapid growth. The once-ridiculous social issues will be resolved one by one. High-speed rail, electric vehicles, stealth fighters, hypersonic weapons, lunar rockets, and high-end chips—India will conquer these challenges in turn. The only difference is that its pace of development will be one or two times slower than China's.



Of course, India also has its deep-seated flaws, which may well become the hidden dangers that lead to its eventual decline in the future—

India's land tenure system will significantly slow down the pace of urbanization in India.

Regional development in India will be among the most unequal globally, with massive youth unemployment and extreme income disparities in the future, which will fuel severe social class conflicts.

India's democratic system, combined with its massive population, inherently struggles to address issues of social equity. The country is likely to develop to a certain stage before descending into the political, social, and industrial chaos reminiscent of the United States.



Please note that the aforementioned issues are only likely to emerge once India has developed to a sufficiently advanced level. By that time, India will likely have achieved roughly half of China's GDP and will rank among the world's top nations in manufacturing and military capabilities. The tripartite division of the world will then enter a period of stability. Therefore, I advise everyone to view this future India—which will remain in its most rapid development phase for an extended period—with a calm and rational perspective.

 

[siegecrossbow]

I should remind everyone that it's high time we completely abandoned the notion that India is forever a failed nation. India is on the path to success.



India may well have dirty streets and chaotic, vulgar social order for the next two decades, yet it continues to develop in a positive direction through its own unique system—sustaining economic and technological progress, reforming institutions, and constantly gathering social feedback for optimization. You may dislike Modi as a person, you may dismiss his Hindu nationalist policies and manufacturing incentives as rubbish, but his policies have indeed united the Indian people and enabled India to recognize the fundamental conditions required to become a global power.



What truly destroys a nation's future is its internal chaos, rigidity, vicious infighting, and even fragmentation.—such as the class conflicts, racial tensions, and institutional inertia seen in Europe and the United States; or the ignorance and incompetence of African leaders coupled with a lack of state control; or the protracted civil wars and external conflicts plaguing Middle Eastern nations. These are the true hallmarks of a civilization's decline.



We observe India continuing to open its doors to the world, with its economy and technology maintaining rapid growth. The once-ridiculous social issues will be resolved one by one. High-speed rail, electric vehicles, stealth fighters, hypersonic weapons, lunar rockets, and high-end chips—India will conquer these challenges in turn. The only difference is that its pace of development will be one or two times slower than China's.



Of course, India also has its deep-seated flaws, which may well become the hidden dangers that lead to its eventual decline in the future—

India's land tenure system will significantly slow down the pace of urbanization in India.

Regional development in India will be among the most unequal globally, with massive youth unemployment and extreme income disparities in the future, which will fuel severe social class conflicts.

India's democratic system, combined with its massive population, inherently struggles to address issues of social equity. The country is likely to develop to a certain stage before descending into the political, social, and industrial chaos reminiscent of the United States.



Please note that the aforementioned issues are only likely to emerge once India has developed to a sufficiently advanced level. By that time, India will likely have achieved roughly half of China's GDP and will rank among the world's top nations in manufacturing and military capabilities. The tripartite division of the world will then enter a period of stability. Therefore, I advise everyone to view this future India—which will remain in its most rapid development phase for an extended period—with a calm and rational perspective.

If you set the expectations low enough any improvement can technically qualify as success, especially post-amplification by the biggest winologists since the dawn of mankind. Real question is have they lived up to their own potential? Is this truly the best that they could do given available resources?

 

[Nevermore]

If you set the expectations low enough any improvement can technically qualify as success, especially post-amplification by the biggest winologists since the dawn of mankind. Real question is have they lived up to their own potential? Is this truly the best that they could do given available resources?

So clearly the answer is that Indian society as a whole remains inefficient. But inefficiency does not preclude the level of development it can achieve in the long term.(For example, an annual growth rate of 7.5%. This is actually not a low rate.)

India's population of 1.4 billion continues to grow, meaning its developmental ceiling far exceeds that of smaller nations like Japan, South Korea, and Germany. Its inherent disadvantages merely prolong the time required to reach its peak.

 

[siegecrossbow]

So clearly the answer is that Indian society as a whole remains inefficient. But inefficiency does not preclude the level of development it can achieve in the long term.

India's population of 1.4 billion continues to grow, meaning its developmental ceiling far exceeds that of smaller nations like Japan, South Korea, and Germany. Its inherent disadvantages merely prolong the time required to reach its peak.

Qing Dynasty after the western industrialization movement also has much higher population than Japan. It managed to take back Xinjiang despite Czarist Russia, humiliate the French in Vietnam, and even managed to competently design and manufacture small arms which is more than I could say for a certain hyper power. How did that turn out?