China's Space Program Thread II

[Xiongmao]

Does anyone know if parts of the manned lunar mission will be reusable. I mean if they used LM 10A as the side boosters, then they could recover 4 boosters per 1 crewed lunar mission.

 

[ZachL111]

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The world's first low-inclination remote-sensing satellite constellation is a step closer to reality, called the Wuyang Constellation. Here is the quoted article:

The signing ceremony for the world's first low-inclination remote sensing satellite, the "Wuyang Constellation," was held.

From November 29th to December 1st, the 23rd China Remote Sensing Conference was held in Guangzhou. During the conference, a signing ceremony was held for the "Strategic Cooperation Framework Agreement between the People's Government of Tianhe District, Guangzhou City, Guangdong Tianyuan Technology Co., Ltd., and Guangzhou University." This signing marks the official establishment of the main body of the world's first low-inclination remote sensing satellite constellation project—the "Wuyang Constellation"—in Tianhe District, Guangzhou City.

According to reports, as an important vehicle for implementing the national space power strategy in Guangdong, the "Wuyang Constellation" is jointly promoted by the Guangzhou Municipal People's Government, the National Information Center, and Guangzhou University. The "Wuyang Constellation" is a low-inclination, low-Earth orbit remote sensing constellation, comprising three "Wuyang Pioneer Stars" and 25 "Wuyang Constellation" satellites.

The "Wuyang Constellation" pilot satellite A is scheduled for launch in March or April 2026; Phase I of the "Wuyang Constellation" project plans to launch 5 to 10 satellites by the end of 2026, achieving two-day full coverage of low-latitude regions; Phase II of the "Wuyang Constellation" project plans to launch 15 to 20 satellites in 2028, achieving half-day full coverage of low-latitude regions; subsequently, the "Wuyang Constellation" plans to cooperate with other constellations to form a "Wuyang Star Network" with 1008 satellites by 2035.

"Designed, manufactured, launched, received, applied, and promoted in Guangzhou, the 'Wuyang Constellation' will provide a 'Guangzhou solution' for the development of commercial aerospace in Guangzhou, Guangdong, and the Greater Bay Area," said Gu Xingfa, Chairman of the China Remote Sensing Committee and Professor at Guangzhou University. He pointed out that the "Wuyang Constellation" will carry high-resolution, wide-swath, full-spectrum payloads to construct a "material fingerprint" map, providing full-spectrum, high-precision aerospace data services, upgrading remote sensing capabilities from "taking pictures" to "high-precision physical measurement." Its phased construction will gradually cover 15 provinces and regions in southern China as well as low-latitude countries and regions, creating a spatial information corridor for the "Maritime Silk Road" and providing intelligent services that are "instantly sensed, instantly transmitted, and instantly usable" for disaster prevention and control, resource management, and other fields, leading the global innovation and industrial development of low-latitude remote sensing technology.

 

[ZachL111]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1995874250172104967

The launchpad for the Long March 12A has been inspected and officially inducted, according to reports. This basically all but confirms a timeline, in my opinion, of December to launch. We may very well see two or three reusable launches in the month, in terms of debuts.

 

[gadgetcool5]

I'm very worried about these launches. China's private space industry in particular has had a very bad record of late, with failed launches and unintentional launches.

 

[Overbom]

I'm very worried about these launches. China's private space industry in particular has had a very bad record of late, with failed launches and unintentional launches.

Who cares, so many bright young people graduate every year. As long as these companies don't seriously affect the state space program, they can keep blowing up their rockets.

You gotta go out to the fields and shed blood if you want to eventually become an expert. Let a thousand flowers bloom

 

[gpt]

Does anyone know if parts of the manned lunar mission will be reusable. I mean if they used LM 10A as the side boosters, then they could recover 4 boosters per 1 crewed lunar mission.

Translunar injection is very demanding energy-wise, esp with a 27t payload, so no. There are ways to do lunar missions at scale in the 2030s but this shouldn't and isn't CALT's focus for this variant of the rocket.

 

[tphuang]

China's private space industry isn't CASC. They are more like SpaceX and willing to accept failures for faster innovation.

 

[Tomboy]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1995874250172104967

The launchpad for the Long March 12A has been inspected and officially inducted, according to reports. This basically all but confirms a timeline, in my opinion, of December to launch. We may very well see two or three reusable launches in the month, in terms of debuts.

What's the third reusable launch? To my knowledge it's only CZ-12A and ZQ-3

 

[madhusudan.tim]

China's private space industry isn't CASC. They are more like SpaceX and willing to accept failures for faster innovation.

While it is not too dissimilar to the US Space sector, Landspace and other private sector seem to be nominally private. Lots of inputs and technology seems to be flowing across the state owned and these private companies, for example, the strakes in the ZQ-3 and the LM 12A. But, the thing is, the risk tolerance is more in US compared to that in China, particularly in the space sector. IMO, China should allow for more failures.

 

[siegecrossbow]

While it is not too dissimilar to the US Space sector, Landspace and other private sector seem to be nominally private. Lots of inputs and technology seems to be flowing across the state owned and these private companies, for example, the strakes in the ZQ-3 and the LM 12A. But, the thing is, the risk tolerance is more in US compared to that in China, particularly in the space sector. IMO, China should allow for more failures.

To be fair even Space X had a lot of input/tech from former NASA employees.