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FriedButter

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Did USAID get restated or something?

I noticed a lot of generic China bad posts are coming back on social media.

The funny thing is how tone deaf they are because they are repeating the same old points even though we have people like Bald who have actually been to China showing that's not the case.

I guess the lesson learnt is people will always come up with a way to see China bad even if that's against reality. That's just how they are

USAID is the State Department. They are under new management where Macro Rubio is in charge of it. USAID was only dismantled so they could fold the MAGA aligned parts under direct management from the Trump Admin.
 

Temstar

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This video aswell as ChongqingHotpot represents Shanghainese people which is why me and my dad are embarrased to be Shanghainese.

Shanghainese people are such western cocksuckers to the point that it could rival that of HKers and time and time again west stabs China in the back so we it reasonable to view pro western people as the fifth column of China plus HK riots were not long ago so there is that (The Chinese diaspora being from the coast dosen't help).

It dosen't even help that the Shanghainese government is also somewhat like this where they rewrite history to make basically glorify the "Paris of the East" even though all was just a corrupt, crime ridden aparthied state. Not to mentioned they completly omit the fact that Shanghai was already a port city since the song dynasty from the Shanghai history musuem and Shanghai zoo has a eurocentric view on the history of pandas which is fucking disgraceful.

I wish Xi Jinping would have more power so he could purge this shit once and for all.

Xi Dada is also from Shaanxi along with my mom which is another reason whu me and my dad do not claim to be Shanghainese but Shaanxi ren.
Being old school Shanghainese isn't about dressed in suits while working at an investment bank worshipping the west. Proper old school shanghainese is about wearing a singlet on your way back home chugging salty soda trying to cool off because you've been sweating it out all day working at Bao Steel contributing to modernization of China. Fortunately that side of Shanghai is not gone, for is not the carrier Fujian, largest warship ever built in Asia not born in Shanghai not long ago?

Don't let haters tell you what Shanghai is and isn't, and least of all don't let these neo-Shanghainese still trying extra hard to hide their 乡毋宁-ness control what it means to be a shanghainese.
 

TPenglake

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In which case China has not inflicted the kind of economic hurt that will make japs think twice.
The confrontation has just begun and you never play all your cards at once.
China has the economic tools to hurt Japan, but it won’t because it’ll also affect China.
Well yourself just gave one of the reasons why China doesn't go for the knockout blows that keyboard warriors keep advocating for, so what's your objection? We live in a globalized economic order, whether you like it or not is inoperative, only choice is to get used to it.
So, a lack of determination.
Lots of people have mischaracterized China's measured approach to policy as such. Today, China has emerged on top of most of its past geopolitical confrontations, including the trade war with the US. So who are we to criticize?
And what’s happening now? A return to the status quo. Is that winning a standoff? China gave them face and an off ramp, prioritizing economic stability. Neither netherlands as a whole nor any dutch companies suffered any economic reprisals. Nor the executives that engineered it. German car companies had a production slowdown…for a week. And this was a situation where the dutch played a universally criticized move and China was well within its rights to make them pay.
They got ownership of the company back and humiliated the Europeans by outing them as lapdogs with no independent foreign policy. So in short, yes it is winning. Eventhough I rarely do this, I say this is one area where there's not much room for debate.

Eh anyhow, back to point one, the confrontation is just starting and thus far China hasn't dropped the ball geopolitically at all this year. So just wait and see what happens.
 
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China's escalating confrontation with Japan is colliding directly with its attempt to join one of the world's most demanding trade agreements — the Comprehensive and Progressive Agreement for Trans-Pacific Partnership (CPTPP).

And because Australia is chairing the CPTPP process this year, the diplomatic fallout is landing squarely on Canberra's desk.

A lot of CPTPP members are already RCEP members (Australia is part of it) or members of ASEAN which China already have a free trade agreement with, it's not a big deal if China can't join. Ultimately the TPP was originally designed to isolate China by the US so the fact that the US isn't part of the CPTPP is already a good outcome for China.

Peru and Chile also have bilateral FTAs with China, and Canada/Mexico is unlikely to create one with China because of US influence/pressure.

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iewgnem

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No they didn't. Chinese CEO hasn't been reinstated.
Management is still under the Dutch executives who did the coup
And China hasn't release Europeans from the slave chain either lol
Nexperia chips have resumed, they are being drip-fed to European firms, making it hard to plan. China, Mr Richtberg quips, is giving European firms “enough not to die, but not enough to live”.
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Right now Nexperia in still 100% Chinese, Chinese office is still the only one receiving payment and European executives is still executive of an empty shell. Beijing explicitly commented the Dutch move was a good "first step", there was no indication anyone consider the problem solved and as such punishments are still fully in place. I don't know what Wingtech wants, but for China its preferable that European Nexperia dies than returning to the original state anyway.
 

iewgnem

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It's important to bear in mind that China is winning right now, and winning very hard at basically everything. The American-led counterattacks have all failed; some quite spectacularly. The more this trend continues, the more it favors China so why start a military conflict and risk everything. The calculus would be different if China were losing right now, but that's far from the case.
If you were to start a military conflict, it's should be precisely when you're winning.
The worst time to start a conflict is when you're already losing.
Art of War's "win before you fight" specifically implies fighting when you're winning and only when you're winning.

In this case it would obviously not be a good look for China to start the fight out of the blue, but it would be in China's interest to force the losing side to start the fight. Japan was especially vulnerable to the fallacy of fighting when losing when they were under US oil embargo 80 years ago, and they can be made to do so again.
 

manqiangrexue

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How does he know the person is Japanese? The title is Arabic and the picture is of a non-Asian female. I find a lot of deception nowadays with a majority of angry MAGA turning out to not even be American!! I've found that the people who are most full of shit and pro-USA/anti-China on Facebook are Indian/Filipino. The cheerleaders are most aggressive because they can write checks as if American, that their nations will never have to cash.

Forgive my foolishness but I always hold out hope when it comes to another East Asian country, perhaps because I think that a fellow East Asian can't be so stupid, perhaps because the in-person politeness conceals an evil beyond my ability to detect... and perhaps because I just like East Asian faces...

But from the interviews I see of the Japanese, I see very few instances of begrudging hatred but mostly instances of poor education and confirmation bias in otherwise reasonable people. The primary reason for which I've seen interviewed Japanese people dislike Chinese people can be separated into 2 categories: 1. Has an incorrect understanding of events/history 2. Heard that Chinese people were ill-behaved and immediately believes this once they see anything reinforcing it.

1. Has an incorrect understanding of events/history
Over this incident, a lot of Japanese are fooled by their government into thinking that Takaichi said something very benign. I've heard some say that she simply claimed that if China's attack on Taiwan were expanded into an invasion on Japan, Japan's military must respond. Others think she said something like the military would be summoned to quickly and efficiently save and evacuate Japanese citizens from a Taiwanese warzone. Yet others asked why China was so aggressive threatening to invade and devour a neighboring country showing that they did not know that Taiwan island is recognized by Japan as a part of China. They wondered why China threatened to cut Japan's head off over this basic desire to protect itself. They think China went way too far despite expressing a desire for peace and positive relations with China. But nobody interviewed understood correctly that Japan recognizes Taiwan as a part of China due to its acceptance of the Once China Policy, and therefore, Takaichi's remark of intervening with Japan's military meant that she would send Japan's self-defense forces to invade China during a Chinese civil war.

On Facebook, I have a conversation with one Japanese man whom I treated quite aggressively because I assumed that he knew what Takaichi said and wanted to defend it. He responded again and again when I called Japan a dog and all sorts of insults but eventually tried to reason with me about how peaceful and defensive Japan was and how China's comment was over the top. So then I realized he didn't know what was happening and I accepted to reason with him. When I told him the bolded part above, he was finished. He no longer responded like a ghost disappearing after he got his justice. That is why I feel that Japanese people may be reasonable if told the truth.

2. Heard that Chinese people were ill-behaved and immediately believes this once they see anything reinforcing it
What can I say? Don't make trouble where you go. Japan is an extremely polite society with many many interpersonal rules, and they don't like foreigners, any foreigners, and that's fine. So I recommend simply doing business with Japan when they are good and leaving them alone when they are bad. Don't go there. Just don't because Japan is an especially sensitive society and honestly some Chinese people treat a place like their rented party pad just because they paid for their vacation package. I've heard of harassing deer, open defecation (was it a child?), line-skipping, buffet-fucking, buying an absurd number of things and lugging it everywhere, making high volume calls in public, etc... I don't know how much of it is amplified by media and how much of it is real but if they don't want us there, then we shouldn't be there. Keep it all business with Japan.

And then there's old males; a category on their own and fairly binary. There's those who think that China will invade Japan if given the oppertunity and therefore must be destroyed before it destroys Japan, and there's those who are extremely well-versed in history and very very based and apologetic with a positive attitude.
 
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