Well, by location of sail it looks like Borey without missile compartment, adding space for Poseidons in front of sail. You can see possible Poseidon launch ports, they are way too big for 533mm tubes.
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Apparently the russians are working on Mach 3 and beyond nuclear powered cruise missile, a successor to Burevestnik.
Something that i wanted to say for a long time, and perhaps there might be a better topic for this discussion, but i think whatever the logic the russians followed when seeing the need for Burevestnik and Poseidon (basically making sure that they can ensure MAD even in the face of american ABM and other missile defences), it's even more imperative China develop their own equivalents, since it has a much smaller nuclear arsenal than US, hence more vulnerable to being degraded below necessary MAD levels by US ABM and other defences. Given the increasingly erratic and volatile western behaviour, it is not unlikely that decision making actors such as the orange potus and his cronies/handlers might think they can actually win a nuclear war against China because it has much fewer nukes and the US ABM will protect their mainland from most damage. It's an unnerving thought considering the unpredictable behaviour displayed in this last year by the US and western axis.
Hopefully China is already working on such weapons in the shadows.
Something that i wanted to say for a long time, and perhaps there might be a better topic for this discussion, but i think whatever the logic the russians followed when seeing the need for Burevestnik and Poseidon (basically making sure that they can ensure MAD even in the face of american ABM and other missile defences), it's even more imperative China develop their own equivalents, since it has a much smaller nuclear arsenal than US, hence more vulnerable to being degraded below necessary MAD levels by US ABM and other defences. Given the increasingly erratic and volatile western behaviour, it is not unlikely that decision making actors such as the orange potus and his cronies/handlers might think they can actually win a nuclear war against China because it has much fewer nukes and the US ABM will protect their mainland from most damage. It's an unnerving thought considering the unpredictable behaviour displayed in this last year by the US and western axis.
Hopefully China is already working on such weapons in the shadows.
Umm these are pretty dopey weapons to develop if you have any intention to make the world slightly safer from MAD while still preserving the capability for MAD.
China pursuing nuclear powered cruise missile is completely pointless. Neither China or US have such weapons not because they can't develop them but because they are crossing a line of safety. It's risky enough as it is with thousands of ICBM and SLBM pointed at each other ready to fire at moments notice. Things can even go wrong with that. Having a loitering, nuclear powered, megaton warhead packed cruise missile constantly deployed during any times of heightened tension is begging for something to go wrong or someone with ill intentions to set off a terrible series of events.
China and US atm both consider themselves to have something to live for. Neither side is going to pick nuclear armageddon without good reason or being attacked first. Russia's weapons are more than enough for MAD. China's not quite as secure with only 1000 warheads vs Russia and US' ~3000 each.
HGV and HCM nuclear missiles are more secure than nuclear powered cruise missile carrying the warhead. The cruise missile is constantly loitering in the air if it is launched. Retrieval is complex. Detonation for self destruction is extremely hazardous. It's not got landing gears. Once in the air it's almost like an ICBM getting launched. You can call it back but there's no man directly at the controls. It's guidance and flight can be disrupted. Too many risks to play with when it comes to world ending weapons.
China pursuing nuclear powered cruise missile is completely pointless. Neither China or US have such weapons not because they can't develop them but because they are crossing a line of safety. It's risky enough as it is with thousands of ICBM and SLBM pointed at each other ready to fire at moments notice. Things can even go wrong with that. Having a loitering, nuclear powered, megaton warhead packed cruise missile constantly deployed during any times of heightened tension is begging for something to go wrong or someone with ill intentions to set off a terrible series of events.
China and US atm both consider themselves to have something to live for. Neither side is going to pick nuclear armageddon without good reason or being attacked first. Russia's weapons are more than enough for MAD. China's not quite as secure with only 1000 warheads vs Russia and US' ~3000 each.
HGV and HCM nuclear missiles are more secure than nuclear powered cruise missile carrying the warhead. The cruise missile is constantly loitering in the air if it is launched. Retrieval is complex. Detonation for self destruction is extremely hazardous. It's not got landing gears. Once in the air it's almost like an ICBM getting launched. You can call it back but there's no man directly at the controls. It's guidance and flight can be disrupted. Too many risks to play with when it comes to world ending weapons.