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Feima said:
Nigel Ng got canceled in China for collaborating with Mike Chen, a known FLG. Ng deleted the offending video, apologized in a video posted to Chinese Internet, and also made a defiant "not bowing down" video on western Internet.
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Sardaukar20 said:
I know that sometimes Nigel Ng could be compared to someone like Russell Peters. So why the big fuss over his style of comedy? Well Russell Peters does his father's Indian persona, but it is just part of his many persona. Nigel Ng is all about his Uncle Roger persona, it's a permanent feature of his brand of comedy. Russell Peters rarely bring heavy political topics if any into his comedy. But not Nigel Ng.

With regards to China, Nigel had expressed his dislike for China based on US propaganda. Things like Xi Jinping, censorship, propaganda, Taiwan, Uighur slave labour, and Covid. Watch his skit in India for example. He expressed relief that there were no Chinese amongst his audience. Watch his joke about Wuhan and Covid. Where he roasted an audience from Wuhan. He asked him to wear a facemask, "thanked" Wuhan for 3 years of pandemic, and asked why they ate that bat. I don't see why that is funny, I find it distasteful.

So no, I have seen enough of Nigel, and I just don't like him. People can call me sensitive, but I see a pattern here. When it comes to China, his style of comedy reinforces Sinophobia in the West. Whether knowingly or unknowingly. I think he knows what he is doing.

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Could just be me, I don’t really find it offensive, I mean different comedians will have their styles, some will aim to offend, some do topical jokes, it’s part and parcel of the comedian space.

As for the not bowing down comment/video, his comedy is in English and he has to make a living in cancel culture in the West, can’t really blame him for that, the fact he even bothered to make the apology is good enough. Additionally if he really did bow down to one topic then anyone and everyone of the sensitive woke culture will try their luck and in the West today, if you do that then you might as well retire as a comedian.

Regarding Uncle Roger, can’t really blame him for that either, he found his most successful caricature, it’s meant to be offensive, meant to exaggerate, in fact his (Nigel) entire style of comedy relies on being offensive and exaggerating things, that applies to pretty much all other topics, so it is what it is. If he is offensive only to China, Chinese and anything related then I can fully agree with you but that’s not what I am getting from him. If the people listening to it, believe it and is Sinophobic as result, it just means they were racist to be begin with.

I am not really defending him per se, but just think that given the times we live in, it’s a bit unfair.
 
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Mt1701d said:
Could just be me, I don’t really find it offensive, I mean different comedians will have their styles, some will aim to offend, some do topical jokes, it’s part and parcel of the comedian space.

As for the not bowing down comment/video, his comedy is in English and he has to make a living in cancel culture in the West, can’t really blame him for that, the fact he even bothered to make the apology is good enough.

Regarding Uncle Roger, can’t really blame him for that either, he found his most successful caricature, it’s meant to be offensive, meant to exaggerate, in fact his (Nigel) entire style of comedy relies on being offensive and exaggerating things, that applies to pretty much all other topics, so it is what it is. If he is offensive only to China, Chinese and anything related then I can fully agree with you but that’s not what I am getting from him. If the people listening to it, believe it and is Sinophobic as result, it just means they were racist to be begin with.

I am not really defending him per se, but just think that given the times we live in, it’s a bit unfair.
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Imagine Uncle Roger making a joke about why NY City build such tall buildings that terrorists can fly planes into them. Imagine Uncle Roger says "Israel? Good country!". Imagine Uncle Roger jokes that Gaza kids shouldn't throw stones at IDF soldiers, they might think they're grenades. Imagine Uncle Roger joking about LGBT people being too sexually provocative. Imagine Uncle Roger jokes about what happened to all the Natives in America and Australia. Then let's see how soon he gets cancelled in the West.

Sounds offensive? It wasn't so offensive when he said "phew, no Chinese" in India. Or thank you to Wuhan for 3 years of pandemic. Or saying 万岁 Xi Jinping in Taiwan. Sensitivity can work both ways.
 
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Faisal Iqbal said:
Western AI is not the run-away train, Nvidia is still undervalued in the stock market and its definately not the bubble at all...
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Lacking the electrical power, paradoxically ensure this AI data center bubble keeps on going.

Think about it in practical terms.

They want to build a data center with Nvidia chips. There is no dispute here on this point.

However, everyone kind of realizes that they might not have enough power from the grid to support this new investment.

That does matter, but they will build it anyways, it just could be delayed.

To make a long story short, such delays pushes any bubble bursting further into the future too.

Furthermore, all bubbles probably burst the same way. An historical run up, then at a certain point people realize there is no demand.

That is the thing here, that demand is strong right now for AI and for data centers. That is the only thing keeping the US economy from slipping into recession.
 
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Sardaukar20 said:
Imagine Uncle Roger making a joke about why NY City build such tall buildings that terrorists can fly planes into them. Imagine Uncle Roger says "Israel? Good country!". Imagine Uncle Roger jokes that Gaza kids shouldn't throw stones at IDF soldiers, they might think they're grenades. Imagine Uncle Roger joking about LGBT people being too sexually provocative. Imagine Uncle Roger jokes about what happened to all the Natives in America and Australia. Then let's see how soon he gets cancelled in the West.

Sounds offensive? It wasn't so offensive when he said "phew, no Chinese" in India. Or thank you to Wuhan for 3 years of pandemic. Or saying 万岁 Xi Jinping in Taiwan. Sensitivity can work both ways.
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Sure sensitivity can work both ways. And again, his market is in the West, what were you expecting? It’s not like he is shy away from offensive topics, but he is not going to deliberately get himself cancelled. And I am pretty sure, tho I don’t remember specifically, that he has done bits on LGBT and Natives.

Anyway, let’s agree to disagree, it’s not like he was on the news and frankly to each their own. You don’t like him that fine, I just think the characterisation was a bit unfair.
 
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Mt1701d said:
Sure sensitivity can work both ways. And again, his market is in the West, what were you expecting? It’s not like he is shy away from offensive topics, but he is not going to deliberately get himself cancelled. And I am pretty sure, tho I don’t remember specifically, that he has done bits on LGBT and Natives.

Anyway, let’s agree to disagree, it’s not like he was on the news and frankly to each their own. You don’t like him that fine, I just think the characterisation was a bit unfair.
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Sure, his market is the West. He makes Chinese stereotype jokes and perpetuates the Sinophobic propaganda. Yet he has not dared to joke about politically sensitive stuff in the West. That makes him quite one sided. The way he made fun of the Indian Caste system, Western politics, and the Taiwanese separatist government is relatively respectful. But he goes all out on mainland China. He had temporarily collaborated with Mike Chen. There is a pattern with him. Therefore I do consider him a hanjian sellout with an agenda. I don't think he is being called out enough.

Ronny Cheng and Joe Wang are much better comedians than him. They target western audiences too. Ronny Cheng does roast China and their politics. Yet he also roasts the American politics with equal ferocity. So I know that he doesn't have an agenda. Joe Wang too, knows how to make fun of China. He jokes about the culture and history of China. He also makes fun about the Chinese censorship, but knows not to cross certain lines. These guys don't specifically single out China in their comedy.
 
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