New Energy Vehicles (NEVs) in China

supercat

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Chinese scientists accomplished three breakthroughs in the research of solid-state battery.
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China strives to expand its EV charging capacity by 60% at the end of 2027.
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The Chery Jetour Zongheng G700 SUV is amphibious.
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Chinese scientists accomplished three breakthroughs in the research of solid-state battery.
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China strives to expand its EV charging capacity by 60% at the end of 2027.
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The Chery Jetour Zongheng G700 SUV is amphibious.
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I find vehicles with questionable water fording ability like these a dangerous gimmick. It only takes one accident or an window openes too far for the car to sink. Either make it a proper amphibious vehicle with appropriate propulsion or don't do it at all.
 

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Local pilots drive national progress. Regulatory flexibility matters.

If the national government sets the direction of travel, it is in local pilot schemes that the rubber meets the road. By 2024 more than 32,000 kilometres of road across China had been approved for testing autonomous driving of some sort. In Beijing, by the end of 2023 techies had clocked up 39m kilometres of testing, mostly on the capital’s outskirts. Wuhan handed out its first licences to fully driverless robotaxis in 2022; now passengers are able to hail them on one-third of its streets. This kind of real-world experience is crucial for ironing out kinks before technology goes national. “There’s more room for trial and error. If problems arise, you can reverse course quickly,” says Zheng Lin, a law professor at Dalian Maritime University, who studies autonomous driving.

The pilot schemes are not just a test bed for engineers. They promote innovation in rule-making too. Local officials in China are keen to make their hometowns hubs for new technologies, so as to attract investments and boost their own careers. To enable this, more than 50 cities have written their own competing policies on things such as liability in accidents, guidelines for responsible testing, and what subsidies they will make available to firms that test in their neighbourhoods. Even boosters admit that this has become a touch confusing. But it is nonetheless providing plenty of good and bad examples for lawmakers to learn from.

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I find vehicles with questionable water fording ability like these a dangerous gimmick. It only takes one accident or an window openes too far for the car to sink. Either make it a proper amphibious vehicle with appropriate propulsion or don't do it at all.

The trouble with features like this is that they may encourage drivers to take risks that they really shouldn't. Vehicle manufacturers are always trying to stand out from the crowd and niche capabilities make for compelling advertisements, but there's a very fine line here between making use of those amphibious capabilities within their engineered and specified design limits and, through ignorance or otherwise, operating the vehicle outside those design limits leading to loss of the vehicle and considerable risk to life. It's a variation on the old joke about 4WD features: they increase how far you can get away from civilization before getting stuck.

There's clearly some clever engineering at work here. Question is how to present it to regular drivers in a way that doesn't cause more problems than it's worth. Even relatively simple things like manual diff locks can get regular drivers into trouble if they keep them engaged on high-traction surfaces because they don't know any better.

It would be interesting to read the fine print on the Jetour G700's amphibious capabilities. For Yangwang U8, they are at least consistent in describing it as an "emergency" feature and one that requires the vehicle to be inspected at a service centre after use. Warranty and insurance implications would also be interesting.
 
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The trouble with features like this is that they may encourage drivers to take risks that they really shouldn't. Vehicle manufacturers are always trying to stand out from the crowd and niche capabilities make for compelling advertisements, but there's a very fine line here between making use of those amphibious capabilities within their engineered and specified design limits and, through ignorance or otherwise, operating the vehicle outside those design limits leading to loss of the vehicle and considerable risk to life. It's a variation on the old joke about 4WD features: they increase how far you can get away from civilization before getting stuck.

There's clearly some clever engineering at work here. Question is how to present it to regular drivers in a way that doesn't cause more problems than it's worth. Even relatively simple things like manual diff locks can get regular drivers into trouble if they keep them engaged on high-traction surfaces because they don't know any better.

It would be interesting to read the fine print on the Jetour G700's amphibious capabilities. For Yangwang U8, they are at least consistent in describing it as an "emergency" feature and one that requires the vehicle to be inspected at a service centre after use. Warranty and insurance implications would also be interesting.
Although staged in China, will likely be used as a promo to attract more Middle East buyers who love Jetours

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Chery has a solid-state battery with an energy density of 600 Wh/kg.
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Battery EV sales in the first 3 quarters of 2025 - Geely (Galaxy + Zeekr) did well:

Former GM executive Michael Dunne talks about the advancement of China's auto industry. It seems that few people saw it coming, because it happened while China was under the baptism of fire of COVID-19. At that time, quite a few people though China was finished. For those who don't want to read, you can listen to the Electric Viking.
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Chery Jetour Zongheng G700 PHEV was launched.
  • Price range $46,300 - 58,200 (the "amphibious version" costs $100,000)
  • Power: 665 kW (892 hp), 0 to 100 km/h acceleration time of 4.6 seconds
  • Torque: 1,135 Nm (837 pound-foot)
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