Chinese UCAV/CCA/flying wing drones (ISR, A2A, A2G) thread
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Footage captured by Beijing residents shows military parade equipment leaving the city, with tanks and CCA formations absent.
Tanks were clearly went to the railway station via another route
but the CCA? No one knows.
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Definitely a real plane. You can make out scratch/scorch marks on the inner petals of the engine.
Also the wings are obviously foldable. Is there a tailhook on this?
Perhaps that's why the IWB on the side instead of underbelly, it has tailhook underneath it.
Alright boys when can we expect see these drones the air in a month or two Or a year
Honestly, what impressed me the most was the crowd, with a large portion being teenagers and young males. They were joyful, cheerful, and almost overly hyped (lol). This demographic will be the ones operating advanced equipment and weapon platforms in the future, so seeing them in such high spirits is a good sign! It’s just like how a surge of young Americans signed up for the Navy when Top Gun was trending..
Discussion continued here as a more suitable thread.
I think we should put it this way...
If there are any serious attempts (or resemblance of) at equating all the China's UADS that we've seen not just in the 9-3 parade, but in the weeks leading up to it, to the US' efforts at their CCA development:
While the US is just about getting started with CCA Increment 1 - I certainly don't think that it's an exaggeration to say that China is already at Increment 2-equivalent with her UADF-C, UADF-D and UADF-E (based on the current goals laid out by the USAF for CCA Increment 2), and more so at Increment 3/4-equivalent with her UADF-A, UADF-B and UADF-F by this point.
The YFQ-42A just had its first flight mere days before the 9-3 parade (and not yet for the YFQ-44A as of time of writing this). And as a matter of fact, both the YFQ-42A and YFQ-44A feature no IWBs to speak of. In the meantime, with the possible exception of UADF-D - All the currently-known UADFs have IWBs. That's indeed one significant gap of capability by itself, let alone some other capabilities which are less obvious/apparent to your average observers like us.
(I suppose the same could be said for the MQ-28 and other similar projects in the West as well, despite not being part of the USAF's CCA project.)
A sidenote - In one of the most recent Guancha Gang podcasts, one of the more notable mentions by them is that Xinjiang is also known as the Area 51 of China for good reasons. Sure, we may have not seen a lot of things going on in the CCA-type UCAV domain for China in the public realm, especially considering how these UADS suddenly break cover out of nowhere and appearing on the parade training grounds just northwest of Beijing - But is there anyone here who can say for sure that there was absolutely nothing going on at Malan (and any other sites elsewhere in China with similar roles, setups and levels of obscurity & security) for months, if not years prior to June 2025?
Needless to say, the PLAAF (and naturally, by extension, the PLANAF) will have their own internal "Increments" (if not long already been the case) regarding their UADS as well, which aren't made public for rather obvious reasons. With that being said, I believe we should see more "next-Increments" UCAVs coming out of China in the years ahead - And hopefully at more rapid and steadfast paces than our counterparts on the other side of the Pacific.
I think we should put it this way...
If there are any serious attempts (or resemblance of) at equating all the China's UADS that we've seen not just in the 9-3 parade, but in the weeks leading up to it, to the US' efforts at their CCA development:
While the US is just about getting started with CCA Increment 1 - I certainly don't think that it's an exaggeration to say that China is already at Increment 2-equivalent with her UADF-C, UADF-D and UADF-E (based on the current goals laid out by the USAF for CCA Increment 2), and more so at Increment 3/4-equivalent with her UADF-A, UADF-B and UADF-F by this point.
The YFQ-42A just had its first flight mere days before the 9-3 parade (and not yet for the YFQ-44A as of time of writing this). And as a matter of fact, both the YFQ-42A and YFQ-44A feature no IWBs to speak of. In the meantime, with the possible exception of UADF-D - All the currently-known UADFs have IWBs. That's indeed one significant gap of capability by itself, let alone some other capabilities which are less obvious/apparent to your average observers like us.
(I suppose the same could be said for the MQ-28 and other similar projects in the West as well, despite not being part of the USAF's CCA project.)
A sidenote - In one of the most recent Guancha Gang podcasts, one of the more notable mentions by them is that Xinjiang is also known as the Area 51 of China for good reasons. Sure, we may have not seen a lot of things going on in the CCA-type UCAV domain for China in the public realm, especially considering how these UADS suddenly break cover out of nowhere and appearing on the parade training grounds just northwest of Beijing - But is there anyone here who can say for sure that there was absolutely nothing going on at Malan (and any other sites elsewhere in China with similar roles, setups and levels of obscurity & security) for months, if not years prior to June 2025?
Needless to say, the PLAAF (and naturally, by extension, the PLANAF) will have their own internal "Increments" (if not long already been the case) regarding their UADS as well, which aren't made public for rather obvious reasons. With that being said, I believe we should see more "next-Increments" UCAVs coming out of China in the years ahead - And hopefully at more rapid and steadfast paces than our counterparts on the other side of the Pacific.
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I think it's weird that PLAN prefer to use AL-31 for their J-15 but the future naval UCAV is using WS-10.