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vincent

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That is what the Su-30SM2 is basically.
The Russians don't seem to be big on re-engine programs of that kind for whatever reason.
It seldom happens. Not seen as cost effective.
I think they feel if they need to upgrade engines and electronics, while only keeping an in production airframe, it isn't worth the hassle. They would rather get a new aircraft.
Doesn’t make a lot of sense. The airframe may be still good for another 20 years.
 

pmc

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Alteast 9 Lada SSK and 1.5 boats rate per year of SSBN/SSN. Now each of these Subs will getting longer and longer range missiles. so how do you think targeting will be provided. these robots will become long distance. I think at some point AAM with much longer range than longest range SAMs will be introduced.

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He also called the increase of the potential of non-nuclear submarines a pressing task; they are equipped with the Kalibr missile system and are currently on combat duty in all fleets. Currently, the president said, non-nuclear submarines of Project 677 are being built, one of them, Kronshtadt, has already been accepted into the Navy in 2024, and it is planned to build at least nine such submarines in total.
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Putin calls for Russia to be the leader in marine robotics​

It is obvious that it is these weapons, these weapons that will largely determine the future of the Navy. Therefore, the most important task is to ensure our primacy in this area," he said and called on the participants of the meeting to discuss promising developments in the area of underwater marine multifunctional robotic systems.
 

bsdnf

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Kuznetsov confirmed to have been given up

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Many people have oversimplified the prospect of the Kuznetsov undergoing major repairs in China.

The Kuznetsov has remained within Russian territory throughout its entire service life, and neither CSSC nor the PLAN has ever gained a thorough understanding of this aircraft carrier. Moreover, the Kuznetsov has undergone multiple repairs over the years, including extensive structural modifications such as boiler replacements. CSSC remains completely unaware of all the repairs and modifications made to the original hull throughout these processes.

Even if CSSC and the PLAN obtained the finalized blueprints of the Kuznetsov in the 1990s, they would only understand its original design specifications. The current condition of the Kuznetsov undoubtedly differs significantly from its original state. If it were truly to undergo major repairs in China, Russia would need to transfer all technical documentation—including records of all previous repairs—to CSSC. CSSC would then require substantial time to process this information. Just the process of documentation transfer, data digestion, on-ship inspections, and finalization of the repair plan could take two to three years. Even if the process began immediately, it would be extremely difficult to commence work before 2028.

Additionally, whether to transfer critical subsystems such as weapon systems, radar, and electronic equipment for replacement and repair to CSSC would pose another major challenge. Assuming Russia only permits CSSC to conduct hull repairs and modifications, the process would still take considerable time. Once the Kuznetsov completes repairs and returns to Russian territory, it would undergo another round of installation and calibration of critical subsystems, which would also be time-consuming.

In summary, the prospect of the Kuznetsov undergoing major repairs in China is a hot potato—neither Russia nor China, nor the Russian shipbuilding industry nor CSSC, would find it easy to handle. The Kuznetsov's best possible outcome would be decommissioning, scrapping, and dismantling, or being sold to the PLAN as a target vessel—both scenarios would be mutually beneficial for all parties involved.

As for what Russia should do if it loses its aircraft carrier—what options remain? Either completely abandon ambitions of building aircraft carriers, or sincerely collaborate with China: leveraging a brand-new 40,000-ton high-speed hull, the power system and island structure of the Type 076, flight deck designs previously handled by the Neva Design Bureau, along with electromagnetic catapult and arresting systems. Through close Sino-Russian cooperation, a catapult-equipped carrier could absolutely be delivered to the Russian Navy within five years. This would represent the optimal solution for the Russian Navy to acquire an aircraft carrier within the next three decades.

Of course, whether Moscow is capable of or willing to pursue this "optimal solution" remains a significant question.
 

bsdnf

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Russia has its own Ivan Rogov i.e. Project 23900.

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This is a 40,000 tons LHD.

Why should they buy the Type 076? Maybe some systems in it like EMALS.
First 23900 was started in 2020 and is now expected to be launched in 2027, and it's just a LHD.

Project 23900 was publicly announced 10 years ago, and if we count from the start of the project, it must have been even earlier, which means that it is almost impossible for Russia to design and build a catapult LHD like the 076 from scratch within 15 years. Either completely give up any decent fighter lauching capabilities for a long time, or choose to cooperate, that's it.
 
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gelgoog

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I would be surprised if it only takes them 7 years to build it. Anyway there is no rush to develop carriers when there are other more pressing priorities in the fleet. What is the point of having a carrier without escorts?
 

pmc

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fight NATO with a carrier is unrealistic. there capabilities in Ukraine without Airforce. even the smallest air defense unit need to constantly change position.

UAE Prince spend 4 days in Kazan aviation plant facilities. first time in Russia. The green jacket. seem working visit to see how things are happening. this last set of eyes before UAE president visit. of course only can mention Civil products.
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Sultan bin Khalifa al-Nahyan toured the plant's production facilities and inspected Ansat, Mi-38 and Mi-8MTV-1 helicopters​


futher upgrades. 15 facilities under construction.
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₽1.6 billion to be invested in modernization of Kazan Aviation Plant​

The Kazan Aviation Plant will build a radio engineering measurements building for 1.6 billion rubles. The work is planned to be completed next summer


Two Tu-160M are parked outside. how many will be inside.
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Russia expands aircraft plant in Kazan where bombers are made: satellite images show new hangars - media​

June 28, 17:40
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According to satellite images obtained by the publication, the largest of the new hangars is about 320 meters long and has an area of about 19,000 m². Journalists compared this area to three football fields.
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