2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

2handedswordsman

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Iran fell for the same trap as Armenia & India did. They felt they were "too good" for Russia or China and wanted to integrate into the West. They had plenty of opportunities to buy decent anti-air systems as well as modern jets. They even considered the J-10C but refused it. It was all about Western integration.

I feel bad for the civilians getting caught in the middle, but this was an entirely preventable crisis. Obviously Iran has the moral high ground but geopolitics isn't about morality. Also, the regime is pretty odious even if the Zionists are worse.
Why are you inventing things? Iran all the time tried to reach out for Russian and Chinese weapon but no deal disclosed because of sanctions. Event this S400 purchase delayed many years and downgraded to an Antey 2500.
 

obj 705A

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the B-2 strike on Iran is first and foremost a massive embarassment for Russia. the fact that the B-2 flew over Iran means Russia did not have the courage to provide Iran with the necessary SAM to take out the bombers.
Russia is still this hesitant and afraid of pissing off the zionists even after the US provided all this weaponry and info to Ukraine to kill dozens of thousands of Russians on top of targeting Russian strategic bombers and sinking the Moskva.
Iran is on it's own against the entire west.
Iran a nation of 90 million that has been under sanctions for the past 4 decades cannot possibly survive on it's own against the collective might of the west.
Iran should learn from this mistake. realize that becoming an ally of eastern countries is foolish. and should offer the US a complete change in foreign policy in favor of the west. and if the idea of becoming an ally of the Zionists is too embarassing for Khammenei then he should voluntarily step down and install some one friendly towards the west in his place.
 

nimitz123

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Until now, it seems everything is too perfect to be true. For the last week, international media have had countless articles about MOP bomb, Fordow, B2,..... In addition to yesterday refuelling attempts, it is too obvious. Of course we need to wait to see Iran's response, but I don't believe this. For me it's like we're watching top gun without dogfights and Su57
 
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AlexYe

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US president people
Until now, it seems everything is too perfect to be true. For the last week, international media have had countless articles about MOP bomb, Fordow, B2,..... In addition to yesterday refuelling attempts, it is too obvious. Of course we need to wait to see Iran's response, but I don't believe this
Technically they are responding already to Israel tho
 
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