2025 Israel - Iranian conflict

delfer

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Letting Israel bomb imporant millitary locations isn’t a smart idea, most were wiped out a year ago and the ones their using now are AA guns
Most according to whom? I don’t think anyone truly knows the amount of AD systems and launchers Iran has or had, nor how many were truly destroyed, especially since many could have been decoys.

And you are correct, letting Israel attack unopposed is not the most preferable course of action, but if it saves air defense from being exposed to enemy fire, then it may be worth it. Especially if Israel’s targets are not as important as they may seem to outside observers.

After all, as stated before, Israel is heavily into psychological warfare; big, flashy, scary looking explosions and plumes of smoke are what they need for propaganda value. If they can hit something full of fuel or oil, or just about anything that burns well, even if it’s cheap or of little military value, they’ll do it, and Iran just might not mind it too much.
 
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tamsen_ikard

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Most according to whom? I don’t think anyone truly knows the amount of AD systems and launchers Iran has or had, nor how many were truly destroyed, especially
many could have been decoys.

And you are correct, letting Israel attack unopposed is not the most preferable course of action, but if it saves air defense from being exposed to enemy fire, then it may be worth it. Especially if Israel’s targets are not as important as they may seem to outside observers.

After all, as stated before, Israel is heavily into psychological warfare; big, flashy, scary looking explosions and plumes of smoke are what they need for propaganda value. If they can hit something full of fuel or oil, or just about anything that burns well, even if it’s cheap or of little military value, they’ll do it, and Iran just might not mind it too much.
Explosions from high explosives will not have smoke plumes. Its almost always oil burning.
 

RottenPanzer

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Isreal has AD that can actually shoot down the missiles, even if your pro Iran you have to admit that Irans AD is basically non existent

That's the issue, Iranian AD aren't actually engaging the Israeli aircraft since they are actively giving away a pathway in order to strike rivaling IRGC assets.
 

iewgnem

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Isreal has AD that can actually shoot down the missiles, even if your pro Iran you have to admit that Irans AD is basically non existent
Even if you are pro-Israel you have to admit Israel's AD isn't doing them much good.
Iran's real AD are their underground bases and those can "intercept" basically everything, Israel's AD is all they got and it's wearing thin.
Latest attack only had 20-30 missiles in broad daylight and there were at least 8-10 hits... one of them looks like its Mossad HQ
 

PLAwatcher12

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Most according to whom? I don’t think anyone truly knows the amount of AD systems and launchers Iran has or had, nor how many were truly destroyed, especially since many could have been decoys.

And you are correct, letting Israel attack unopposed is not the most preferable course of action, but if it saves air defense from being exposed to enemy fire, then it may be worth it. Especially if Israel’s targets are not as important as they may seem to outside observers.

After all, as stated before, Israel is heavily into psychological warfare; big, flashy, scary looking explosions and plumes of smoke are what they need for propaganda value. If they can hit something full of fuel or oil, or just about anything that burns well, even if it’s cheap or of little military value, they’ll do it, and Iran just might not mind it too much.
Isreal is hitting their missile launchers, nuclear facilities, missile storage facilities, if Iran is willing to let those get hit or destroyed because they don’t want their AD to get exposed and are willing to let civilians die in the process too than their not as competent as I thought because no competent country would allow that. The reasons why countries develop AD systems is to protect themselves not to hide it so it doesn’t get destroyed or hit.
 

RottenPanzer

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That's not out of question

Although I would think IRGC would be more secretive when it comes to their activities as they are a separate entity

Not to mention we've seen Iranian military being targeted

Also several impacts on Tel Aviv
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The army has its own mole embedded within IRGC, it is easier to imagine that instead of James Moriarty Mossad's Spider Web throughout the IRGC.


As one conspiracy theorist to another: You're nuts yo

Have you seen any footage of Israel's destruction of S-300? S-200? Or even Iran's own HAWK systems?

No so far right?
 

iewgnem

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Isreal is hitting their missile launchers, nuclear facilities, missile storage facilities, if Iran is willing to let those get hit or destroyed because they don’t want their AD to get exposed and are willing to let civilians die in the process too than their not as competent as I thought because no competent country would allow that. The reasons why countries develop AD systems is to protect themselves not to hide it so it doesn’t get destroyed or hit.
Israel is hitting surface hangers, it's not exactly secret Iran's facilities are underground. Considering Iran is levelling buildings across Israel on a daily basis you have to admit the claim that Israel is hitting real or meaningful number of Iranian launchers or missile storage is a bit comical.

If Israel wants to kill civilians they have plenty of civilians to kill regardless of AD, killing civilians isn't how you win wars and Israel and Israeli supporter such as yourself's belief killing civilians will turn them against their own government is why Israel is now in this mess.
 
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