Trump 2.0 official thread

iewgnem

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America Could Have Won the Trade War and reindustrialized by 2030—If It Had Been More Patient.
Think about it for a minute :Trump enters office in 2016 and learns about China 2025 and the unsustainable trade deficit and debt . Instead of panicking, he takes a disciplined, long-term approach. He imposes an initial 10% tariff on all trade—increasing by 10% each year for the next 30 years—and secures Congressional backing to lock in the policy, ensuring no future president can easily reverse it.

This gradual escalation would have given businesses ample time to recalibrate their supply chains, reshore manufacturing, and adapt without sudden disruptions. The steady, predictable pressure would have made reindustrialization inevitable by 2030, strengthening America’s economic independence or whatever he calls it .

But the obsession with short-term wins and the desire to inflict immediate pain on China and Europe undermined this strategy. Instead of a sustainable victory, the U.S. got a chaotic trade war with no clear endgame.
Xi should thank heavens that he's dealing with an impulsive power and not a patient one.
Nah, you're assuming China won't counter that as well.

There was never any "winning" for America by their current definition, at its core America doesn't have the human capital, education, culture or real capital to compete with China, the best outcome they could have hoped for was being a comfortable regional power in a China dominated world, with an edge in a few industries that China lets them have.

In other words, America can never win because they define winning as China losing, and China didn't become the world's oldest civilization by losing.
 

Mt1701d

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China is a huge market for US franchises, Starbuck, McDonald, KFC, Walmart and many others may be in potential list if escalation gets further heated.
This one may not be that useful, majority ownership of these brand in China are in the hands of the Chinese with minor stake held by original brand along with royalties for brand usage. So it would be more of an own goal to go after them.
 

Topazchen

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Anyone still thinks he's war-averse?
Trump and his base generally oppose wars that involve American boots on the ground and the loss of U.S. lives. They flexing military muscle from a distance; airstrikes, drone attacks etc , and targeted assassinations in the Middle East. It’s not about avoiding conflict; it’s about projecting power without paying the price in American blood. To them, it's the ultimate display of dominance.

It's the same mindset behind their psychopathic addiction to sanctions and tariffs.No direct blood but you get to flex power and punish entire countries. Such tweets are such a turn on to the majorty of Americans.


 

daifo

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This one may not be that useful, majority ownership of these brand in China are in the hands of the Chinese with minor stake held by original brand along with royalties for brand usage. So it would be more of an own goal to go after them.

The ARM China ceo probably gave the government some ideas. The rumor i've heard is that if the US intends to wage an economic war with China, China would just ignore all us ip and trademarks. Something they can do is that these franchise would not be obligated to pay its parent company or chinese companies can internationally expands with the trademark into the global south. Think selling coke syurup and branding for 1/10th the cost.
 

daifo

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The dumb thing about all of this is that Trump probably could of just raise a small 3-7% tarrif and there probably not be much of a reaction from anyone. The us consumers would of been silently fleeced, us buisness would of loss some profit and the exporter would of lost some profit.
 
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