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Randomuser

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Something to consider is Ukraine is a third world country while Taiwan is a first world country. That alone makes a huge difference.

Not to mention many Eastern Ukrainians not too long ago saw themselves the same as Russians and even represented Russia in some cases. So you got fighters like Uysk, Fedor, Shevchenko etc. Who does Taiwan have? Andy Wang?

It's tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you've been sleeping in silk pajamas.
 

Ringsword

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Jai Hind on RT opines that India's path to greatness lies in building a Blue Water Navy. They just never learn.
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India's path to greatness is to humble itself, build more toilets, build real and lasting infrastructure, educate it's population, stop gangster economics, and stop it's loincloth imperialism. But we all know that the Indian elites and the Jai Hinds will never get there.

When China was threatened by the Americans and the Soviets, it did not push away Japanese and American trade and knowledge. Instead it opened itself to them. China even humbled itself to learn from Singapore. That's how China realized it's potential. Even to this day, China doesn't call itself a great nation, or a superpower.
I think little India saw how the Australians were totally discombobulated by the 055 Zunyi Flotilla's Grand Australian Tour and said to themselves ala Palki Sharma,"If China can do it,so can India"-the tragic/comedy forthcoming will write itself;););)
 

Sardaukar20

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Something to consider is Ukraine is a third world country while Taiwan is a first world country. That alone makes a huge difference.

Not to mention many Eastern Ukrainians not too long ago saw themselves the same as Russians and even represented Russia in some cases. So you got fighters like Uysk, Fedor, Shevchenko etc. Who does Taiwan have? Andy Wang?

It's tough to get out of bed to do roadwork at 5am when you've been sleeping in silk pajamas.
Correction bro. Taiwan is not a country. It's a renegade province of China who latched onto the power of America to fool everyone into thinking that it is an actual country.
 

GulfLander

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"Trump has reportedly told Canada’s Trudeau that "he did not believe that the treaty that demarcates the border between the two countries was valid and that he wants to revise the boundary" "
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Isnt Aljazeera, qatari owned? Seems uts english language version still have this type of narrative on CN?
The reporter seem former bbc? Tony cheng?
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Biscuits

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Correction bro. Taiwan is not a country. It's a renegade province of China who latched onto the power of America to fool everyone into thinking that it is an actual country.
China is first world (well, not by the traditional alignment definition, but by the more common living standard definition), so that make Taiwan also part of a first world country, with all the associated advantages and troubles.

I think the point is that there will be huge whiplash effect going from normal first world life to suddenly being in combat. There is really no other time in modern history where a developed country fought with full strength around it's own territory.

Closest thing might be for Russia in Sudzha, but the amount of civilians in that city was so small. Or maybe the feeling of Israeli civilians after the IDF indiscriminately fired on car columns and hostages inside Israel during the immediate aftermath of the Hamas offensive last year.

Imho the "whiplash" effect will make it so that people who aren't strongly ideologically motivated will quickly flee. Mainland Chinese have an ideological reason to defend their homes (especially if US/Japan begins a full scale invasion), while I dont see why when it comes down to the wire, KMT separatists will actually want to fight. They'll get nearly all the devastation from the conflict but with no actual realistic paths to winning.

Plus in the event of the civil war restarting, even if US launches a full scale invasion of Taiwan, the daily life of people on the mainland will not change much. Meanwhile, people in KMT occupied areas would go from normal Chinese living standards to far below Gaza within a matter of weeks. I think this would have some profound psychological impact on them, possibly outright mentally breaking most of them.

People in Ukraine and Gaza are like frogs that have been put in gradually heating water, so they are able to fight coherently even during difficulty as they had a long time to slowly get used to difficulties ramping up. Whereas if you throw another frog directly into boiling water, something different will happen, although I'm not sure what.
 
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