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Zealous intervention in the chip industry to direct and support its progress, despite yielding some results in the short term, may ultimately prove to be its biggest stumbling block, as innovation is seldom manufactured or bought.
More importantly, aside from applications related to artificial intelligence (AI), most existing military use cases are not reliant on sub-10nm chips and use
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that China already has established capabilities in. Export controls targeting the most advanced chips mainly used for AI-related applications thus restrict only a small part of the overall capabilities that the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) can currently field in a military confrontation.

This does not mean that export controls will not bite in the long term. The PLA’s ongoing modernisation effort is driven by a view that future wars will be “
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” in nature and dependent on AI-driven systems. The demand for advanced chips needed for AI-related applications can therefore be expected to grow and come up against the hard limits imposed by China’s lack of EUV lithography equipment.

The reality is that China’s recent advances in producing sub-10nm chips depend entirely on foreign technology, whether it is the equipment used to manufacture chips or the software needed to design them. China’s efforts to produce its own lithography equipment have
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This is a pivotal moment in geopolitics; if successful, the Anglos would be shut out of the biggest market in the entire world and that doesn't mean just China, it also means Eurasia and Europe once they finally decide following Anglo homosexuals isn't the path to life and success.

China is spreading democracy around the world by flooding....lol

TSMC's CEO stated that TSMC will charge higher prices for chips produced outside of Taiwan, including those in US factories. I have been saying that American factories will be TSMC's forever bleeding point, and they will never be able to produce cost-effective chips. What China needs to do is to "overcapacity" in the chip field. When the market is flooded with low-priced but equally effective Chinese chips, good luck to TSMC to find many customers for its high priced American chips.
hence my implication at my previous post that the americans will instigate war in east asia especially once TSMC has spent all that capital in building those fabs in CONUS. My recommendation is for the PLARF to send a volley of avangard style warheads to those fabs in america whilst they target USN shipyards.
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Zealous intervention in the chip industry to direct and support its progress, despite yielding some results in the short term, may ultimately prove to be its biggest stumbling block, as innovation is seldom manufactured or bought.
More importantly, aside from applications related to artificial intelligence (AI), most existing military use cases are not reliant on sub-10nm chips and use
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that China already has established capabilities in. Export controls targeting the most advanced chips mainly used for AI-related applications thus restrict only a small part of the overall capabilities that the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) can currently field in a military confrontation.

This does not mean that export controls will not bite in the long term. The PLA’s ongoing modernisation effort is driven by a view that future wars will be “
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” in nature and dependent on AI-driven systems. The demand for advanced chips needed for AI-related applications can therefore be expected to grow and come up against the hard limits imposed by China’s lack of EUV lithography equipment.

The reality is that China’s recent advances in producing sub-10nm chips depend entirely on foreign technology, whether it is the equipment used to manufacture chips or the software needed to design them. China’s efforts to produce its own lithography equipment have
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17 hours ago — The reality is that China's recent advances in producing sub-10nm chips depend entirely on foreign technology, whether it is the equipment used ...
Again, why don't these white anglos and zionist westerners tap into that freedom and democracy or 'god's chosen' 'ashkenazi high IQ' to innovate better and maintain their lead in the world? Thus far, the only innovation they've pioneered are innumerable genders and legal ways to enable pederasty.
 

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BUT bro by that time circa 2028 where TSMC Arizona will be fully operational, China will be mass producing 3nm chip and a limited production of 2nm chip using its owned EUVi, so what value Taiwan will bring to the table? I always said that there will be NO shooting war in Taiwan cause both the Chinese across the straight are rational people. ;)
 

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Zealous intervention in the chip industry to direct and support its progress, despite yielding some results in the short term, may ultimately prove to be its biggest stumbling block, as innovation is seldom manufactured or bought.
More importantly, aside from applications related to artificial intelligence (AI), most existing military use cases are not reliant on sub-10nm chips and use
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that China already has established capabilities in. Export controls targeting the most advanced chips mainly used for AI-related applications thus restrict only a small part of the overall capabilities that the People’s Liberation Army (PLA) can currently field in a military confrontation.

This does not mean that export controls will not bite in the long term. The PLA’s ongoing modernisation effort is driven by a view that future wars will be “
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” in nature and dependent on AI-driven systems. The demand for advanced chips needed for AI-related applications can therefore be expected to grow and come up against the hard limits imposed by China’s lack of EUV lithography equipment.

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17 hours ago — The reality is that China's recent advances in producing sub-10nm chips depend entirely on foreign technology, whether it is the equipment used ...
SCMP and the Lowy institute kinda do suck nowadays as a news outlet given now they are quite blatant on the China bashing over any true substance. I do find it funny that most of its sources amount to educated yet biased guess work.

Here’s something funny, SCMP and Moscow times are quite similar in that they are not based in the country that are supposedly doing the news for (HK for SCMP and the Netherlands for Moscow times), both of them are western leaning and opposed to the countries they are supposed to do new for due to foreign influences, both of them are equally bullshit and quite frankly unreliable

In the end, China will win the Chip war and the USA will simply loses its innovative edge forever, that is the ending the USA has chosen for itself.
 

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How they gonna subsidise that factory when the USD wont be worth diddly in a decade to help sustain it? The only way that factory is going to be viable is if the US successfully instigates war in east Asia thereby destroying the fabs in taiwan and on the mainland leaving the US as the sole provider of semiconductor chips to the world.

The West, but especially the Anglos have a very Trisolarian mentality at wanting all the high technology of the world to remain in their hands, even to the point of sabotaging other cultures and peoples.

They can sanction all Chinese chips, leaving only the Western supplier to purchase from at exorbitant prices which will be levied on to the zombie taxpayer whose primary concern in life is football and beer.
 

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Apparently Gina Raimondo is spinning China's 5nm semiconductor as claiming it's an inferior chip. Yeah because the US is using 3nm but the whole point was she was suppose to prevent China from making the 5nm breakthrough that require the next level advanced tools to achieve. She also seemed butt-hurt that she was used as advertisement for Huawei's smartphones. She kept on saying "we" have the most advanced chips then the interviewer said, "You mean Taiwan!" and you can tell she didn't like it.

The most advanced node in production in the US is the "Intel 4", which is a marketing term meant to sound like it's equivalent to 4nm process. However, transistor density for "Intel 4" is much lower than TSMC 5nm. In fact, "Intel 4" transistor density is closer to TSMC and SMIC's best 7nm processes than to TSMC's 5nm process. If SMIC 5nm can come close to TSMC 5nm, then they would be ahead of "Intel 4" in terms of transistor density.

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China also spends its reserves to massively financially de-risk from the US, and invest in significant quantities of copper, oil, nickel, iron, and everything that isn't US treasuries, not just gold, since they have excess capital they need to invest somewhere (BRI lending also grew big-time in 2023). In general, everyone is de-dollarizing rapidly in many ways.

Currency/trade wars, economic isolationism, and resource accumulation like the ones happening nowadays globally were historical preludes to many big-time wars, signifying periods of instability, between the old hegemon dying, and new powers appearing.

Generally, countries around the world could 'tolerate' the US's aggressive hegemony over them, in return for global economic and international prosperity and stability, but now that that isn't the case anymore, there is no reason to 'tolerate' the US anymore.

It is time to move to someone else, who is capable of once again resetting the global world order back to stability and growth both geopolitically, and economically (won't cause wars everywhere around the world, instability, that all slows down global GDP growth, etc).

In my opinion, that is clearly China, which has proven to be a much smarter, more peaceful, and more stable superpower. In fact, it exports deflation, instead of inflation like the US. It boosts global standards of living instead of decreasing it at the current time.

And instead of sucking up capital from around the world, as the US does, it exports it and invests massively in developing other countries, etc. Therefore, I don't think that anyone would truly "miss" US after they are gone, as they delusionally and arrogantly believe.

Everything will just return to the better version of the current reality the next day they are gone, although there will be some short-term pain, but overall long-term gain and a way better version of the world.
 

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The first such project was a study on “state of the art machine parts”, which play a crucial role in the operation of modern combat ship propulsion systems.

“At the time of their arrest, the accused were in further negotiations about research projects aimed at expanding China’s maritime combat power in particular,” the prosecutor said.

The group also allegedly smuggled a special laser, with military applications.
 

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BUT bro by that time circa 2028 where TSMC Arizona will be fully operational, China will be mass producing 3nm chip and a limited production of 2nm chip using its owned EUVi, so what value Taiwan will bring to the table? I always said that there will be NO shooting war in Taiwan cause both the Chinese across the straight are rational people. ;)
It's bigger than Taiwan now though, and it's no longer about semiconductor chips; China's rise threatens the very concept of white male superiority and that's more than enough reason for Westerners to agree to go to war with China. People from my millenial generation here in Australia have constantly been told about a potential war with China and China's rise elicits a particular primal fear in white western males who now have to compete with Asian men for high paying jobs and women. I can appreciate you like other Chinese and Asian leaders take a rational and even a win-win approach but to a people who formerly had privilege and are now having to deal with China and Asians on a more equal footing...that's sure to make any of them rage.
 

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It's bigger than Taiwan now though, and it's no longer about semiconductor chips; China's rise threatens the very concept of white male superiority and that's more than enough reason for Westerners to agree to go to war with China. People from my millenial generation here in Australia have constantly been told about a potential war with China and China's rise elicits a particular primal fear in white western males who now have to compete with Asian men for high paying jobs and women. I can appreciate you like other Chinese and Asian leaders take a rational and even a win-win approach but to a people who formerly had privilege and are now having to deal with China and Asians on a more equal footing...that's sure to make any of them rage.

TSMC's Arizona plants also a corporate Business Continuation play. If China does successfully invade Taiwan, TSMC's advanced nodes will not survive. For customers with such concerns, it is comforting to know there is Arizona.
 
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