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james smith esq

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The point i am making is if US find more useful allies it will support them. Even Arabs will support US colonialism in Africa and Indo China.
Iran and Turkiye are nobody the matters i am referring too. and you never know who is behind US policies toward Iran as Saudi American company have deals since 1930s. Arabs are dominant forces when it comes to religion and wealth. dont confuse Palestine/ Lebanese/Syrian Arabs with Arabs of Nejd and Hejaz.
The “Arabs” are only important because they’re willing subjects of Anglo imperialism and colonialism. They were made important by their masters, whose sympathies, btw, you seem to share.
Had the Iranian Revolution not occurred, you’d be singing the praises of the Shah of Iran, right now. Iran was given access to top level U. S. military hardware long before the backwards goat-herding, camel-riding Saudis!
 
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pmc

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The “Arabs” are only important because they’re willing subjects of Anglo imperialism and colonialism. They were made important by their masters, whose sympathies, btw, you seem to share.
Had the Iranian Revolution not occurred, you’d be singing the praises of the Shah of Iran, right now. Iran was given access to top level U. S. military hardware long before the backwards goat-herding, camel-riding Saudis!
I think you have little understanding of Gulf Arabs. if Shah stayed. Iran will be even more decadent state. its population growth would have collapsed. who knows Iranian Azeris, Arabs and Baloch would have stayed. Iranian shah was not competent enough to stay afloat let alone influence outside. even today Iran has backdoor trading with West through UAE.
 

james smith esq

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I think you have little understanding of Gulf Arabs. if Shah stayed. Iran will be even more decadent state. its population growth would have collapsed. who knows Iranian Azeris, Arabs and Baloch would have stayed. Iranian shah was not competent enough to stay afloat let alone influence outside. even today Iran has backdoor trading with West through UAE.
They’re clannish, tribal camel-traders; always have been, always will be. Their “influence“ came about by geographic-resource coincidence, and subservience to Imperial masters. They have no history of either nation+building, or industrialization. They simply appear in history after the fall of the Ottoman Empire, to which they sold camels. Their “influence” is based, solely, on being allowed to ”manage” their camels to the benefit of their masters!

Are you Howeitat?
 
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pmc

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They’re clannish, tribal camel-traders; always have been, always will be. Their “influence“ came about by geographic-resource coincidence, and subservience to Imperial masters. They have no history of either nation+building, or industrialization. Their “influence” is based, solely, on being allowed to ”manage” their camels to the benefit of their masters!

Are you Howeitat?
industrialization does not give you influence and independence when it is based on some one else tech and investment. Look at Germany and Japan and there will be many more added to it. you can easily search US presidents pictures when they receive that necklace from Saudi Kings. look at size of red carpet for Qatar Emir. what do you think why is that?
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Hadoren

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This guy will most likely be extremely hostile towards China. I found this article from two years ago :

The ultra-liberal Javier Milei, the first candidate for deputy for the City of Buenos Aires, assured that he "would not do business with China", despite the fact that it fluctuates between the first and second destination for Argentine exports. The argument of the referent of Avanza Libertad was extemporaneous: "I do not do transactions with communists."

The far-right economist considered that breaking relations with China would not be a serious macroeconomic problem because "we could make transactions with the civilized side of life", where he placed the countries of the "West".

Milei's McCarthyist position was exposed during an interview with Canal de la Ciudad, in which a journalist began by asking him about the relationship with Cuba and Venezuela -to which he only replied "condemn"-, and then opened the query by the main trading partner of Argentina after Brazil.

"I would not do business with China," the economist tried to evade the question, but when asked about the impact it would have on the Argentine economy to stop exporting grains and meat to the Asian country, Milei insisted on his cold war position: "It is false that it would be a macroeconomic tragedy. We could deal with the civilized side of life. I don't deal with communists."

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I'm sure this guy will stop all trade with China the same way Bolsonaro firmly rejected Chinese vaccines - during the Sinovac trials.

Bolsonaro's brave rejection of Chinese vaccines lasted all the way until Brazil officially approved Sinovac.

The next day, Bolsonaro courageously bought Sinovac's first 100 million Brazilian-made doses for Brazil.

Let's hope Milei shows just as much anti-communist spirit as Bolsonaro.
 

BoraTas

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Then I guess Argentina doesn't have any issues with getting more freedom debts from IMF and further selling off their prized assets at firesale prices. Not to mention their already sky high inflation. I hope he wins.
This seems like just another export (intended or not) of American right-wing idiocy.

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"Argentina’s traditional political structure was rocked when voters opted overwhelmingly in the primaries for Javier Milei, a candidate capitalizing on the anger that’s built up on the back of years of socio-economic deterioration. The ultra-liberal economist, who declares himself an “anarcho-capitalist,” is against abortion, considers climate change “a ruse” invented by the left, advocates the end of the state, and identifies with Spain’s ultra-right party, Vox."

Anyway, will be fun to watch.
 

james smith esq

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industrialization does not give you influence and independence when it is based on some one else tech and investment. Look at Germany and Japan and there will be many more added to it. you can easily search US presidents pictures when they receive that necklace from Saudi Kings. look at size of red carpet for Qatar Emir. what do you think why is that?
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Oil!
Ever heard of a “Dago Dazzler”?
 
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Biscuits

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Sorry, but what a naive thought.

Latin American countries are poor and defenseless. Manipulating and managing them is the easiest thing in the world and the US does it cheaply and without any competition.

If China wants to protect itself from the US threat to its business in the region, it will need to help its allies to prosper, competing with the US for the power. Otherwise, Latin America will always be poor, cheap and the backyard of the USA that will remain safe and without any threat in sight. While the USA will grow increasingly aggressive and expands its vassals in Asia threatening China's security with impunity.
Lol yeah fat lot of good the last "coup" (Bolsonaro) did for US.

China will always play moves back. We have a foot in on the region where in the past there was no footholds at all, and now we will move towards having more and more inroads. All the while, countries are being flipped in regions which actually have future potential, like the Middle East, without US being able to do a thing about it.
 
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