Aircraft Carriers III

cross-posting what from the Russian Thread (of course announcements of monstrous carriers, destroyers etc. are part of the Kremlin Propaganda; the press release, intended for Useful Idiots in the West, is
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I got intrigued by the project name (Ламантин): I speak four languages, but in none of them I knew
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LOL actually I didn't even know that animal!

so I thought I might have some fun (not in the mood to link a source everywhere below):

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1. the design is by
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as in
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and there're similarities between the two

(

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)


2. dimensions similar to
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3. two EMALS (!) (электромагнитные разгонные устройства obviously 2)


4.
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soberly commenting (footage inside
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) the current priority of the Russian Navy is to restore readiness of what they have (but of course he also says in the future they'll build aircraft carriers)


5. this is the fourth (!) recent design (the three are Jun 29, 2019
now they're talking three (3) classes of "perspective" aircraft carriers (
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  1. a multi-purpose of 44k displacement
  2. a medium: 76k
  3. a heavy: 95 - 100k
by
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6. what type of radar would that be:
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?


7. I'm puzzled by Э in the project designation (проект 11430Э) as it should mean (as far as I know) "export" LOL


8. cough cough
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Obi Wan Russell

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For those who constantly harp on about the sparse defences of RN ships including the QECs, there has been an interesting development:

A target boat took a direct hit in the Irish Sea as the Royal Navy successfully tested its new missile to defeat terrorists and suicide bombers.

HMS Sutherland fired four new Martlet missiles at a fast-moving speedboat off the Welsh coast to see whether the weapon could be launched from a ship as well as a helicopter.

Martlet – also known as the Lightweight Multi-role Missile – was originally designed to be fired by Wildcat helicopters to take out small boats which posed a threat to the Fleet, alongside the heavier Sea Venom for dealing with larger warships.

All ships are armed with a series of machine-guns and Mini-guns (manually-operated Gatling guns) to fend off small craft, while some are also equipped with Phalanx automated guns which spew out a hail of bullets at incoming aircraft, missiles and threats on the surface.

The Royal Navy wanted to add to those defences and turned to the new missile system, modifying it so a launcher could be fitted to the existing 30mm automatic gun.

Just five months after the idea was mooted, the Plymouth-based frigate was off the Aberporth Range at the southern end of Cardigan Bay facing a fast inshore attack craft tearing across the water.

After first proving that the gun could still fire accurately with the missile fitted – 120 rounds obliterated a large red ‘killer tomato’ target – and that the sensors behind Martlet could track its radio-controlled foe at ranges of up to five kilometres.

Finally, four missiles were fired – one to test the effect of the Martlet ‘blasting off’ from its launcher on the gun mounting and the side of Sutherland (the missile accelerates to one and a half times the speed of sound in an instant), three packed with telemetry to measure the missile’s accuracy (ordinarily the weapon carries a 3kg warhead).

All was recorded by high resolution cameras so the team from manufacturers Thales and military scientists could analyse the effects in minute detail.

With recent developments this is a welcomed capability for the Royal Navy to the 30mm gun system, that should be rolled out fleet wide to ships with 30mm mounts, including the possibility of HMS Queen Elizabeth being included in any future capability upgrade. 66881561_691156598281495_1336725506212495360_n.jpg 66797165_691156604948161_207806185821175808_n.jpg 67276630_691156721614816_10360556334612480_n.jpg 67235077_691156671614821_4122518281686876160_n.jpg The QECs are scheduled to receive three 30mm guns each in addition to the Phalanx CIWS, and these should makes a significant difference to the ship's self defence capability.
 

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For those who constantly harp on about the sparse defences of RN ships including the QECs, there has been an interesting development:

A target boat took a direct hit in the Irish Sea as the Royal Navy successfully tested its new missile to defeat terrorists and suicide bombers.
...

With recent developments this is a welcomed capability for the Royal Navy to the 30mm gun system, that should be rolled out fleet wide to ships with 30mm mounts, including the possibility of HMS Queen Elizabeth being included in any future capability upgrade. View attachment 52994 View attachment 52995 View attachment 52996 View attachment 52997 The QECs are scheduled to receive three 30mm guns each in addition to the Phalanx CIWS, and these should makes a significant difference to the ship's self defence capability.

A much welcomed addition to fleet security, I am sure. I hope the US navy and other navies do the same, considering the proliferation of asymmetric targets and terrorism. Surface ships are too large of an investment to have them be put out of action by another USS Cole-like event.
 
For those who constantly harp on about the sparse defences of RN ships including the QECs, there has been an interesting development:

A target boat took a direct hit in the Irish Sea as the Royal Navy successfully tested its new missile to defeat terrorists and suicide bombers.

HMS Sutherland fired four new Martlet missiles at a fast-moving speedboat off the Welsh coast to see whether the weapon could be launched from a ship as well as a helicopter.

Martlet – also known as the Lightweight Multi-role Missile – was originally designed to be fired by Wildcat helicopters to take out small boats which posed a threat to the Fleet, alongside the heavier Sea Venom for dealing with larger warships.

All ships are armed with a series of machine-guns and Mini-guns (manually-operated Gatling guns) to fend off small craft, while some are also equipped with Phalanx automated guns which spew out a hail of bullets at incoming aircraft, missiles and threats on the surface.

The Royal Navy wanted to add to those defences and turned to the new missile system, modifying it so a launcher could be fitted to the existing 30mm automatic gun.

Just five months after the idea was mooted, the Plymouth-based frigate was off the Aberporth Range at the southern end of Cardigan Bay facing a fast inshore attack craft tearing across the water.

After first proving that the gun could still fire accurately with the missile fitted – 120 rounds obliterated a large red ‘killer tomato’ target – and that the sensors behind Martlet could track its radio-controlled foe at ranges of up to five kilometres.

Finally, four missiles were fired – one to test the effect of the Martlet ‘blasting off’ from its launcher on the gun mounting and the side of Sutherland (the missile accelerates to one and a half times the speed of sound in an instant), three packed with telemetry to measure the missile’s accuracy (ordinarily the weapon carries a 3kg warhead).

All was recorded by high resolution cameras so the team from manufacturers Thales and military scientists could analyse the effects in minute detail.

With recent developments this is a welcomed capability for the Royal Navy to the 30mm gun system, that should be rolled out fleet wide to ships with 30mm mounts, including the possibility of HMS Queen Elizabeth being included in any future capability upgrade. View attachment 52994 View attachment 52995 View attachment 52996 View attachment 52997 The QECs are scheduled to receive three 30mm guns each in addition to the Phalanx CIWS, and these should makes a significant difference to the ship's self defence capability.
A much welcomed addition to fleet security, I am sure. I hope the US navy and other navies do the same, considering the proliferation of asymmetric targets and terrorism. Surface ships are too large of an investment to have them be put out of action by another USS Cole-like event.
what's the status of those ship-mounted missiles? is any available now? or is it some 'feel good' program maybe?

from googlefu:
MSI-Seahawk-SIGMA.jpg

"Maritime
For maritime applications, Thales have partnered with MSI and Aseslan in Turkey.

MSI have demonstrated a 7 missile launcher on their
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mount, ..."

etc.
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but there's a 5-launcher in the first picture Mr. Russel posted;

what gives?
 
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now noticed inside (dated yesterday)
The U.K.'s Pint-Sized Martlet Missile Will Guard Royal Navy Ships And Much More
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"Development of the Martlet, originally called the Future Air-to-Surface Guided Weapon (Light), or FASGW (L), began in 2008 and the U.K. Ministry of Defense
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for an initial batch of 1,000 missiles in 2011 specifically for the Royal Navy's AgustaWestland
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helicopters. Though the weapons were initially expected to enter service in 2015, the service does not expect the Wildcats to be flying with the small missiles
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wow
 
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