This is a discussion on China Coast Guard and Patrol vessels within the Navy forums, part of the China Defense & Military category; Yeah, I do agree that having the largest ship for coast patrol isn't the most important. Better to have adequate ...
Yeah, I do agree that having the largest ship for coast patrol isn't the most important. Better to have adequate numbers as well as speed and flexibility. Anyone knows if the current number of ships is enough for the Chinese coast guard to do a sufficient job?
Last edited by lcloo; 11-06-2012 at 07:40 AM.
One easy way for China rapidly to expand her fleet of patrol ships under civilian flag is to transfer naval units to the two semi-militarised agencies with close ties to PLAN, China Marine Surveillance (CMS) and Fisheried Law Enforcement Command (FLEC) that constitute China’s ”disputed islands battle force”.
And this is exactly what PLAN has been doing these last months. The list of ships being transferred to CMS comprises 11 units:
Type 051 LUDA class destroyers 131 NANJING and 162 NANNING
Type 918 WOLEI class minelayer 814 LUOYANG, now Hai Jian 112
Type 625C intelligence ship Nan Diao 411 ex Hai Yang 11, now Hai Jian 168
Type 813 intelligence ship 852 QIMINGXING ex Nan Diao 350 ex Xiang Yang Hong 21, now Hai Jian 169
Type 210 YANBING class icebreaker Hai Bing 723, now Hai Jian 111
QIONGSHA class troopp transport Nan Yun 830
Type 635 I YANLAI class hydrographical vessel Dong Ce 226
All three TUZHONG class ocean salvage tugs:
Bei Tuo 710, now Hai Jian 110
Dong Tuo 830, now Hai Jian 137
Nan Tuo 154, now Hai Jian 167
131 and Dong Ce 226 are being converted at Shenjia, Shanghai, 162 and Nan Yun 830 at Huangpu, Guangzhou.
The other ships have not been modified, but transferred as they were, complete with electronic intelligence collection gear (which the icebreaker also has).
More modestly, FLEC has received just one ship:
Type 636 hydrographical research ship 871 LI SIGUANG ex Hai Yang 18, now Yu Zheng 206
But FLEC has formerly received two other ex-PLAN ships:
Type 922 II DALANG submarine salvage ship Nan Jiu 503, now Yu Zheng 311
SHENGLI class tanker Dong You 621, now Yu Zheng 312 (that is the one being converted by Huangpu).
In addition, a number of other PLAN auxiliaries have been operating under cover as FLEC ships in the South China Sea, including most famously Type 904A DANYAO class 888 FUXIANHU, purportedly Yu Zheng 88, and the two other Nansha supply ships, Type 904 DAYUN class 883 DONGTINGHU and 884 JINGPOHU, both using the identity Yu Zheng 21.
Dong Ce 226, now being transferred to CMS, has operated as Yu Zheng 26, while two unidentified tankers are FULIN class Yu Zheng 13 and FUZHOU class Yu Zheng 29.
A good explanation of the missions and roles of CMS and FLEC is found at sinodefence.com:
China Marine Surveillance (CMS) - SinoDefence.com
China Fisheries Law Enforcement Command (FLEC) - SinoDefence.com
sinodefence.com’s ship lists for these two agencies are however very incomplete.
Last edited by franco-russe; 12-13-2012 at 04:59 PM.
I put out an entry recently on this topic.
China Air and Naval Power: China's recent expansion of Civilian Maritime Force
The 3,000-ton Hai Jian 84 is of course a typo for 83 - which was in the earlier (2005) programme, while sistership Hai Jian 50 was in the 2010 programme.
bbc news says today that a Chinese warship used its fire control radar to lock on a Japanese maritime coast vessel
not good! wonder if it a order from higher command or a lone operator, if the latter then it would be distrubing, there was news that a naval helo pilot refused orders from home ship and flew near a Japan ship few months ago
theres a fine line between confrontation and using "lock-on" on measures, things can very easily get out of hand when you start using these tatics
Regarding the incident of the helicopter, it is only RUMOURED that the pilot disobeyed an order; it could be just as likely that he was ordered to continue close-up surveillance of the Japanese ship or he was given permission by his captain to do as he saw fit.